Yeah ZFS is CDDL. I suppose Apple could also have dropped ZFS seeing
as Oracle would (rightfully IMO) deprecate it in favor of BTRFS -
which is GPL and of course much more friendly than CDDL.

/Casper

On Jan 6, 4:07 pm, Ryan Waterer <[email protected]> wrote:
> Correct me if I'm wrong;  the reason they pulled zfs was due to patent/
> licensing issues that they were not able to resolve.  I'll find links  
> later if others do not beat me to it.
>
> Sent remotely
>
> On Jan 6, 2010, at 7:54 AM, Fabrizio Giudici <[email protected]
>
>  > wrote:
> > Spencer Uresk wrote:
> >> Is there some value in keeping stuff like this secret that I'm
> >> missing, or is this simply a case of a culture of secrecy that has
> >> maybe gone a little too far?
>
> > Given that Apple globally hits my nerves, I think that we have to  
> > distinguish between two cases:
>
> > 1. When we're talking about a new product, as the rumored iTablet-or-
> > what-else, I find that the secrecy is legitimate. They're probably  
> > introducing new ideas and technologies and are just protecting their  
> > work from being copied by competitors; additionally, marketing  
> > strategies are carefully picked, they are expensive, and can be  
> > jeopardized by a leak (*). I'd sum up that when they're going to  
> > release a new product, secrecy is legitimate.
>
> > 2. Things are completely different when we're talking about  
> > supporting others' technologies, such as Java 6. There are no news  
> > here, as everybody knows that would be inside the product, and  
> > there's just very scarce innovation in Apple's Java editions (I  
> > mean, for instance there's no specific integration with new  
> > technologies such as Grand Central, and even the look and feel  
> > integration is superior in third parties' products, such as Quaqua).  
> > For a while I tried to find a bit of logic reasoning behind this,  
> > and I thought that it was bound to the idea of keeping their hands  
> > free; in other words, they could be working in this moment to Java  
> > 7, but if they later decide that they don't want to support it they  
> > don't have to give to people any explanation. I had to change my  
> > mind after the drop of ZFS from Snow Leopard: they introduced a read  
> > only version of ZFS in Leopard and even put a full open source  
> > customized version on their forge; while it lacks many integrations  
> > with Mac OS X (e.g. the Finder, trashes etc...) at a certain point a  
> > release started to work pretty well. So it was clear that they were  
> > working on it - contrast this with the complete secrecy of their  
> > Java 6 support. Still, when Snow Leopard came out, ZFS was dropped  
> > and the project on the forge removed all of a sudden. Of course, no  
> > public communication about the rationale. This means that they think  
> > they can change their mind at any time even when facts seemed to  
> > confirm their commitment. So I'd only say that their attitude is  
> > plain arrogance. They can afford it since most of the business comes  
> > from fashion industry (iPhone) where sells are guaranteed by masses  
> > of fanboys. Every corporate get arrogant if it can afford to be.
>
> > (*) I suspect that some leaks are driven by Apple itself as they  
> > have a great teasing effect on fanboys.
>
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