I agree - I don't think its hurting it at all - GAE/J is still java, after all.
GWT I guess I could see the argument for it shifting things a bit in a direction purists would not want it to go, but I am a GWT fan, I must admit, so I ignore those folk ;) On Jan 7, 3:49 pm, Peter <[email protected]> wrote: > In the Holiday Episode, there was some talk about Google hurting Java > with some of its projects like App Engine. I don't think this is > really a fair criticism. I agree that the current sandbox can be a > little annoying. But App Engine doesn't hide the fact that it is a > restricted environment. Users should not be surprised that they are > not allowed to spawn new Threads, or that libraries that rely on > Threads may not work. Anyone choosing to use App Engine is making a > conscious trade off - they are giving up certain classes/functionality > in order to gain (mostly) automatic scalability and relatively little > sysadmin work. To me this is just a more extreme version of coding > with things like Servlets or EJB's, where we agree to follow certain > restrictions in order to leverage some container's existing > functionality. (And App Engine runs bytecode, so I am able to use > Scala!) > > I would much rather have the current situation than have my app > crippled when some newb writes something like: > > while(true){ > new MyThread().start()} > > Since releasing the java SDK, the appengine team has added classes to > the whitelist. I imagine they will continue to do so whenever > possible. > > And as far as GWT goes, I'd much rather be using a subset of Java to > be writing my web UI than an arbitrary non java language. (or worse > yet, a proprietary google language) Don't get me wrong, I'd love it > if GWT could compile arbitrary byte code to javascript, as then I > could use Scala for that too :-) > > -peter
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