I don't see myself using JavaFX to implement any line of business apps.  A
DataGrid control with virtualization* is vital in places such as, say,
front-office where data needs to be presented in tabular format.

I haven't read anything to suggest that a new language for write UIs is
needed.  Just look at Silverlight which uses XAML (XML) to declare a UI,
it's doing fairly well.

Perhaps, Josh Marinacci also left because he saw a lost cause.


* http://bea.stollnitz.com/blog/?p=338

—Mohamed


On 8 February 2010 11:39, opinali <[email protected]> wrote:

> Raising this again... JavaFX 1.2.3 was recently released (without
> notice), which begs the question: is 1.3 late, perhaps that's the
> reason for this new minor update?
>
> Checking the JIRA again: For javafx, compiled-bind-2 is notw complete
> (53/53 so they just lifted 10 bugs), compiled-bind-3 is just around
> the corner with 12/15 (again thanks, at least partially, to some
> rescheduling), and there's a flurry of new SoMa-bXX milestones
> (probably containing thhose rescheduled bugs) of which b23 is complete
> (26/6), b24 is 12/42, b25-27 empty, and the final SoMa is very close
> at 204/217. Overall it seems they entered in the engame run. But
> javafxc must go stable before the runtime project, because it's a
> dependency, and once javafxc 1.3 is RC quality they must recompile
> everything else (including other projects like Composer, Design Tool,
> and god knows what else Sun is cooking) and zero in any regressions.
>
> The Runtime project now shows 343/591, so the fix rate looks good (and
> as I expected/predicted they've been closing some groups of related
> bugs in batches, e.g. tons of "implement CSS" stuff closed in a single
> day). With ~250 bugs to go it's still a hard call for less than one
> month, unless most of these bugs are simple or already in final stages
> of development/testing (e.g. I'd expect the whole new batch of
> controls to be already implemented but just needing final touches).
>
> A+
> Osvaldo
>
> On Jan 31, 1:40 pm, opinali <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Looking athttp://javafx-jira.kenai.com/secure/Dashboard.jspa, you can
> > have a good estimation of whether 1.2 is in the track. The javafxc
> > subproject certainly is, with the first SoMa milestone (compiled-bind-
> > alpha) at 100%, the second (compiled-bind-2) very close at 53/63, the
> > third (compiled-bind-3) at 24/41 and the last (SoMa) at 205/218; so,
> > the total remaining number of bugs seem small enough for the expected
> > release in late February. But for the Desktop Runtime, it's harder to
> > tell; the bug status is at only 309/588 which seems a hard call for a
> > single month, but if 1.2 was any indication, the progress of the
> > Runtime's bugtrack is almost worthless as an indicator of how close
> > they are to shipping.
> >
> > A+
> > Osvaldo
> >
> > On 29 jan, 13:57, Karsten Silz <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > I was wondering when the next version of JavaFX (1.3?) will be out.  I
> > > remember hearing at JavaOne and on the podcast that it was to be out
> > > at the end of 2009 (see this thread as an example:
> http://forums.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5415628).  Now Oracle said
> > > that a _beta_ of the next release will be out before June (
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/29/oracle_sun_java_open_source/p...),
> > > so the final version may not be out until August or later.
> >
> > > Why is JavaFX so late?  Maybe the scope changed - Oracle talked about
> > > combining JavaFX with HTML,  Javascript and Oracle's ADF framework.
> > > The one area where I think this delay can hurt JavaFX is in enterprise
> > > development - the 1.2 component library doesn't include a data grid or
> > > a tree AFAIK, and reports are a key feature of most enterprise apps
> > > (there's probably some open source data grid out there, but I would
> > > have rather delayed the charts from 1.2 to include data grid and
> > > tree).
> >
> > > To, JavaFX 1.3 seems to be the first "real JavaFX release" - a
> > > complete set of components, a visual UI designer, maybe even the
> > > designer tool, (more) mature IDE support and hopefully the most
> > > important Java Web Start / applet issues ironed out by then (see here
> > > for Java Web Start talk:
> http://java.dzone.com/news/when-will-java-web-start-be).
> > > Oracle should also clear up the licensing situation (which parts of
> > > JavaFX will be open sourced, changing the Scenegraph library license
> > > from GPL to Apache or so).
>
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