fair enough, with two big reservations 1. I said that Java UI is on the retreat not thick clients in general
2. >> Did you play with Hadoop (its an eco system of projects at this point) >> Do you know Lucene its the standard for search >> Do you know and understand the java.util.concurrent library. >> There is a lot more but Swing and Java UI in general is not one of them > Not one of them make sense for the end user without a GUI. wait what?! can you explain to me why Lucene, Hadoop and util.concurrent need a GUI? Java excel in long live processes, usually these expose their data via a protocol at this point, its usually HTTP many times applying RESTful ideas (aka see Lucene API) Now before we get into arguments, all I was trying to do is point out that if one is interested in digging deeper into java than investing time in UI is probably the wrong way to go since its not where Java shines. If someone here thinks that Java shines when it comes to UI and that Java UI is more important than Hadoop than I would love to hear your reasoning. On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Wildam Martin <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 15:44, Kfir Shay <[email protected]> wrote: >> Sorry if this is a bit blunt but Java lost when it comes to UI... I >> wouldn't waste my time on Swing unless you have a specific >> requirements mandated to you. > > Sorry, but I think you are completely wrong! > 1. When I visit hospitals in my home town (Vienna) - a lot of medical > software is running on Swing (e.g. . > 2. It happened not just one time that under Windows development I have > seen Widgets/controls with ugly performance. > 3. Swing supports different themes including the option to build your > own and looks the same on every platform. > 4. Due to the fact that it does not use system widgets you have much > more freedom in creating new GUIs and widgets. > > And hell, where is the big difference for the user in clicking on a > JNLP link or starting a web application? The normal client brings much > more possibilities. > > No matter, how hyped web applications are, thick clients are also much > more resident against security issues in relation to web applications, > so IMHO thick clients (and hence also Swing) is far from being dead! > > >> Did you play with Hadoop (its an eco system of projects at this point) >> Do you know Lucene its the standard for search >> Do you know and understand the java.util.concurrent library. >> There is a lot more but Swing and Java UI in general is not one of them > > Not one of them make sense for the end user without a GUI. > -- > Martin Wildam > > Home: http://sites.google.com/site/mwildam/ > Life Hack Blog: http://1-2-solved.blogspot.com > IT Blog: http://it-tactics.blogspot.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
