What can I say, I'm a militant atheist. I genuinely feel that acknowledging your atheism is the only wise choice. After all, give me any person on the planet and I bet you I can find at least one deity they don't believe in. So we're all atheists really of one kind or another, it's easier to just accept the fact :)
On 26 May 2010 18:23, jitesh dundas <[email protected]> wrote: > Hahaha, > > Really..That is quite an expression.. > > I am a Science student and I think science only..I welcome your > opinions Rakesh, that will bring some good pointers for us to > discuss..I don't believe I aimed at hijacking your thread.That thought > is so narrow-minded..In any case, please go ahead and say whatever > you want..You are most welcome...:) > > Btw,thanks for the nominations,I guess I will be famous now..Only > now,I would like to learn more about science from what you say. > > Again, your point about evolution and all..I stand by what I said. Anyways, > thanks for the constructive information. > > I think computers could understand such a situation someday and if > they do, they do, t at will truly be human like thinking.. > > Thanks Kevin for your interesting reply. > > Regards, > jd > > On 5/26/10, Rakesh <[email protected]> wrote: > > hey, this hijacking someone else's thread into a random direction is > > fun! Sorry, I complained before. > > > > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Rakesh <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> if computers gained sentience, they would be worse than the Nazis. > >> > >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Kevin Wright > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> I thought the rule was you couldn't claim that until someone's been > >>> compared > >>> to Hitler and/or the Nazis > >>> > >>> On 26 May 2010 17:03, Rakesh <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Jitesh, > >>>> > >>>> "Intelligent Design" is a theory, created by Creationists to denounce > >>>> Evolution. > >>>> > >>>> I nominate this post to be the most pointless and ill-conceived in the > >>>> history of threads ever. > >>>> > >>>> Rakesh > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:55 PM, jitesh dundas <[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > Actually Kevin, this supports the intelligent design t > >>>> > eory..Evolution is the next step in product of intelligent behavior. > >>>> > > >>>> > No wonder computers are becoming smarter with our support. > >>>> > However, evolution in computers will be the point when we can call > >>>> > computers equal to us ...long way to go..lbut intelligence & > software > >>>> > development ,well that should be not far away .... > >>>> > > >>>> > I request replies in this direction... > >>>> > > >>>> > Regards, > >>>> > jd > >>>> > > >>>> > On 5/25/10, Kevin Wright <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> >> So we can't just create these things, we have to evolve them. > >>>> >> > >>>> >> You know... this really screws with the "intelligent design" theory > >>>> >> :) > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> On 25 May 2010 14:50, shainnif ismail <[email protected]> > >>>> >> wrote: > >>>> >> > >>>> >>> well these machines do have 500,000 years of evolution to catch up > >>>> >>> on, > >>>> >>> the > >>>> >>> analogy i recall was these system are like single cell organisms > >>>> >>> that > >>>> >>> we > >>>> >>> need to force evolve. > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> Regards > >>>> >>> Shaine Ismail > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> On 25 May 2010 14:30, Casper Bang <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> I also studied hypermedia and here 10 years after I have yet to > be > >>>> >>>> convinced that the theory can map to practice (i.e. bidirectional > >>>> >>>> links, annotations etc.) If anyone can bring this forward in > >>>> >>>> practice, > >>>> >>>> it has got to be Google. And yet, look at how crappy live > >>>> >>>> translation > >>>> >>>> of captions works for YouTube. That part will be particular > >>>> >>>> interesting to monitor when GoogleTV launches. > >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> On May 25, 3:17 pm, shainnif ismail <[email protected]> > >>>> >>>> wrote: > >>>> >>>> > I went to a talk at Edinburgh University many years ago, about > >>>> >>>> > Neurolinguistics ( > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurolinguistics) > >>>> >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > specifically on Semantics, and its use in computer science eg > >>>> >>>> > translating human language to code using intelligent programs, > >>>> >>>> > mapping > >>>> >>>> > concepts rather than words. > >>>> >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > It remember being very impressed and that was about 1999. > >>>> >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > shaine > >>>> >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > On 25 May 2010 13:56, Casper Bang <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>> >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > > It's an interesting subject for sure, dating back to Plato > Vs. > >>>> >>>> > > Aristotle. I used to believe futurists like Ray Kurzweil etc. > >>>> >>>> > > but > >>>> >>>> > > now > >>>> >>>> > > I am not so sure. While we will no doubt continue to simulate > >>>> >>>> > > larger > >>>> >>>> > > and more complex brains, we have yet to properly define > >>>> >>>> > > intelligence > >>>> >>>> > > let alone self-awareness (humans primary driver). > >>>> >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > > Nature itself does not seem particular intelligent, it relies > >>>> >>>> > > on > >>>> >>>> > > crude > >>>> >>>> > > trial-n-error (survival-of-the-fittest) and tracer-bullets > >>>> >>>> > > (mutations) > >>>> >>>> > > rather than up-front design. Indeed, modern agile processes > >>>> >>>> > > looks > >>>> >>>> > > an > >>>> >>>> > > awful lot like a step back to nature. > >>>> >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > > The fact that you can hire 100 teams to solve a problem* and > >>>> >>>> > > they > >>>> >>>> > > will > >>>> >>>> > > all get to very different solutions, suggests to me that it > >>>> >>>> > > makes > >>>> >>>> > > little sense to equate computer intelligence and human > >>>> >>>> > > intelligence. > >>>> >>>> > > When all 100 teams start to arrive at the (very near) same > >>>> >>>> > > solution, > >>>> >>>> > > then we may be more ready to define "intelligence". > >>>> >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > > /Casper > >>>> >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > > *Not a pure algorithmic problem a la TSP. > >>>> >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > > -- > >>>> >>>> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > >>>> >>>> > > Google > >>>> >>>> Groups > >>>> >>>> > > "The Java Posse" group. > >>>> >>>> > > To post to this group, send email to > >>>> >>>> > > 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