That is precisely the job of a scientist in my opinion..Have you ever heard of a scientist working on something that is possible or relatively easy to accomplish. I guess that is what separates the likes of Einstein, Edison, Tim Berners Lee, etc from normal people like us..
Thanks again Kevin..Sorry I have a habit of looking at possibilities..Can we focus on the issues gain please..I don't want another complaint... Regards, Jitesh Dundas On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Rakesh <[email protected]> wrote: > Jitesh, Kevin was JOKING. As a scientist in the making, I would have > thought that you would see that! > > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:10 PM, jitesh dundas <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Please note that regarding the comparions of the OS(s) I meant for the > > software development using java . > > > > Regards, > > jd > > > > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:39 PM, jitesh dundas <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> My point was that if we make a comparison between the performances of > Mac > >> and other OS systems, we could find out the reason as to why people > still > >> prefer Windows/Linux over Mac.. > >> > >> Such comparisons and performance reports were in in line with the idea > of > >> what Kevin mentioned some time back.Trying to mention something in that > >> direction.In any case, I welcome your comments. > >> > >> In any case, I want to ask Kevin what is the end result of the equation > >> that you have proposed..The measurement..I like the idea but the end > result > >> parameter is not quite clear to me.Doing this for Object C would surely > be a > >> nightmare..We could however try that for Java.. > >> > >> I wonder if we could find a report on the number of people using OSX for > >> Java development. I am sure Sun and Oracle (even Mac ) might be having > such > >> reports with them.. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Jitesh Dundas > >> > >> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Rakesh <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> jitesh, you're going off topic (again)... > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 9:56 AM, jitesh dundas <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > Well, I think that was pretty interesting. Maybe we need to look > around > >>> > for > >>> > some reports..:).. > >>> > > >>> > Anyone aware of this issue some time > >>> > > >>> > back.. > http://www.tuaw.com/2009/05/20/mac-os-x-java-security-hole-exposed/ > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/apple-finally-patches-musty-old-java-for-mac-vulnerabilities/3637 > >>> > > >>> > If we compare such vulbnerabilities with those of WIndows, Mac scores > >>> > higher.. > >>> > > >>> > Regards, > >>> > JItesh Dundas > >>> > > >>> > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Rakesh <[email protected] > > > >>> > wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> I hope that was a joke. > >>> >> > >>> >> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Kevin Wright > >>> >> <[email protected]> > >>> >> wrote: > >>> >> > Are there figures available for the number of Java devs worldwide? > >>> >> > > >>> >> > What if we took that number, and multiplied it by the proportion > of > >>> >> > Java > >>> >> > articles (online and in magazines) showing screenshots from OSX as > >>> >> > opposed > >>> >> > to other operating systems... > >>> >> > > >>> >> > My guess is that the answer would be pretty high! > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > On 10 June 2010 09:30, Rakesh <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> Hi, > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> one of the assumptions of the OP was that Java developers are an > >>> >> >> important market for Apple and their products. > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> How would this be measured? I mean how does Apple actually know? > A > >>> >> >> lot > >>> >> >> of design companies purchase Macs and don;t do Java dev. > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> I don't remember telling Apple when I bought my macbook that I > >>> >> >> would > >>> >> >> be using it for Java development. > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> Rakesh > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 8:24 AM, jitesh dundas < > [email protected]> > >>> >> >> wrote: > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >>> >> >> > From: jitesh dundas <[email protected]> > >>> >> >> > Date: Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:54 PM > >>> >> >> > Subject: Re: OS-X - the abandoned platform? > >>> >> >> > To: Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected]> > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > I think I will ignore this and focus on the topic..It is > useless > >>> >> >> > to > >>> >> >> > divert > >>> >> >> > attention.. > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > I was wondering if we could compare the performance reports of > >>> >> >> > Windows > >>> >> >> > and > >>> >> >> > Mac and see how Java fairs in both of them..A technical > >>> >> >> > report should > >>> >> >> > do > >>> >> >> > the > >>> >> >> > trick.. > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > Anyone having any suggestions on this? > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > Regards, > >>> >> >> > JD > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Reinier Zwitserloot > >>> >> >> > <[email protected]> > >>> >> >> > wrote: > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> Asking people to calm down on an internet forum is like > throwing > >>> >> >> >> gasoline on a fire. Cut it out. It's annoying. > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> On Jun 9, 12:31 pm, jitesh dundas <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> >> >> >> > Friends, could we stop discussing about the appropriateness > of > >>> >> >> >> > the > >>> >> >> >> > title > >>> >> >> >> > and > >>> >> >> >> > focus on the topic at hand..Something that means > something... > >>> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> > Appreciate that.. > >>> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> > Regards, > >>> >> >> >> > jd > >>> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Ben Schulz <[email protected]> > >>> >> >> >> > wrote: > >>> >> >> >> > > On 8 Jun., 18:01, Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected] > > > >>> >> >> >> > > wrote: > >>> >> >> >> > > > You're not entitled to your own facts, folks. > >>> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> > > On 9 Jun., 07:24, Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected] > > > >>> >> >> >> > > wrote: > >>> >> >> >> > > > The very title of this thread is "OS-X - the abandoned > >>> >> >> >> > > > platform". > >>> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> > > It's not actually, in truth there's a question mark at the > >>> >> >> >> > > end. > >>> >> >> >> > > Need I > >>> >> >> >> > > elaborate on how that makes a difference? > >>> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> > > With kind regards > >>> >> >> >> > > Ben > >>> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> > > On 9 Jun., 07:24, Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected] > > > >>> >> >> >> > > wrote: > >>> >> >> >> > > > The very title of this thread is "OS-X - the abandoned > >>> >> >> >> > > > platform". > >>> >> >> >> > > > If > >>> >> >> >> > > > only the world ran on cognitive dissonance. > >>> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> > > > On Jun 8, 10:44 pm, Ben Schulz <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> > > > > On 8 Jun., 21:10, Reinier Zwitserloot > >>> >> >> >> > > > > <[email protected]> > >>> >> >> >> > > > > wrote:> > >>> >> >> >> > > However, some hyperbole lovers claimed mac os x was now > >>> >> >> >> > > "abandonware", > >>> >> >> >> > > > > > and when people say silly things I feel compelled to > >>> >> >> >> > > > > > call > >>> >> >> >> > > > > > them > >>> >> >> >> > > > > > on it. > >>> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> > > > > Just FYI, you're the only person in the entire thread > to > >>> >> >> >> > > > > use > >>> >> >> >> > > > > the > >>> >> >> >> > > > > word > >>> >> >> >> > > > > "abondonware" -- up until now anyways. 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