Don't Apple have a patent on Spabs?

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Christian Catchpole <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Or you could go into your editor settings and set: Treat Spabs as
> Taces
>
> Spabs vs Taces begins.
>
> On Jun 30, 6:56 am, Viktor Klang <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Christian Catchpole <
> >
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > Why don't we just create a special character called a Spab. Which has
> > > qualities of both. Made from unicorn farts of course :)
> >
> > Seriously?
> > Who uses the Spab? It's aligning things totally messed up.
> > Everyone and his dad uses the Tace, which perfectly lines up all them
> > glyphs.
> >
> > Go Tace!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jun 30, 5:05 am, Robert Casto <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > I know its a pain, but so is having to deal with spaces and tabs.
>  How
> > > about
> > > > telling the editor to convert tabs to spaces when entering text?
> Better
> > > than
> > > > leaving tabs in there.
> >
> > > > Robert
> >
> > > > On Jun 29, 2010 12:52 PM, "B Smith-Mannschott" <
> [email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 17:08, Robert Casto <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Can't we just move on ...
> >
> > > > A few (fairly random) thoughts:
> >
> > > > Wirth's Oberon system supplied a rich text editor with fonts/styles
> > > > and embedded images. All source was written in this editor, giving
> one
> > > > the option of embedding images in comments, choosing tab stops etc.
> > > > Later iterations ("Oberon System 3") also provided a
> compound-document
> > > > based GUI ("Gadgets"). But, alas while you could embed images and
> > > > indeed arbitrary chunks of GUI into your source code, say for
> > > > documentation, all this was ignored by the compiler. It'd have been
> > > > cool if you could have said something like:
> >
> > > > myGui := [ actual, live functioning GUI embedded in source right here
> ]
> > > > myGui.doSomething;
> >
> > > > "cool", but not really useful since Oberon's approach to GUI was such
> > > > that this kind of code-driven GUI programming was unheard of. The GUI
> > > > was a document you created interactively, it was not something you
> > > > wrote a boat-load of ugly unmaintainable code to produce (a'la
> Swing).
> >
> > > > Didn't IBM's Visual Age (for Smalltalk, later for Java, a fore-runner
> > > > of Eclipse) store project source in some kind of a database? Didn't
> > > > that suck?
> >
> > > > Sure, you could store augmented parse trees in place of source, but
> > > > diff/merge of tree-like structures is monumentally more difficult
> than
> > > > diff/merge of textual lines (which is nothing more than a flat
> > > > sequence). Witness, for example, the memory consumption of XML-aware
> > > > diff tools. Witness how few of them exist.
> >
> > > > There has been quite a bit of research on structured editors: i.e.
> > > > editors where you manipulate your program at the level of the parse
> > > > tree, not as raw text. The results have been mixed. If you'd like to
> > > > experiment with the idea, you could try paredit.el, which provides
> > > > syntax-driven editing for lisp-like languages in emacs. Some people
> > > > even like it.
> >
> > > > Speaking of Lisp... a Lisp would make this kind of thing so much
> > > > easier to experiment with. After all *code is data* is one of the
> > > > central concepts of Lisp-like languages.  For full editor
> > > > round-tripping, however, you'd have to figure out some way of working
> > > > comments into said data structure.
> >
> > > > // ben
> >
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Lyle <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > >> Reinier's Rules (ha!) are...
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