Well Kirk you definitely are a 10! But I have many years yet to get to that level if I'll ever get there at all...
On 12 July 2010 21:11, Kirk <[email protected]> wrote: > 10? Why aren't you a 10 also? > > Kirk > > On Jul 12, 2010, at 9:05 PM, twitter.com/nfma wrote: > > I usually tend to put things in a different perspective. > > if you grade all the people doing Software from 0-10. Where Zero is someone > that just started fresh on its first job and Ten are The Kent Becks, The > Rich Hickeys, The Jim Weiriches, etc... of this world. > > Where are you in the grade? > > On 12 July 2010 18:18, Carl Jokl <[email protected]> wrote: > >> One thing I have noticed but wonder what others think is that some >> people just seem to naturally be inclined to being a good developer in >> a way which doesn't seem to be teachable. It is as if some individuals >> just somehow "get it" and others just don't seem to no matter how long >> they spend doing it. It is great when you find such individuals. >> >> I found it hard in many instances as a new developer because so many >> people have strong opinions and will want you to do things their way. >> Many of these people though can be wrong. With so many conflicting >> opinions it can be hard to know which people to trust. I have seen >> some people who will just blindly believe everything their supervisor >> says without question. I have sometimes put myself out on a limb by >> questioning the technical decisions made by people senior to me. In >> spite of trying to do so in a positive way and for the greater good, >> often these individuals just want you to do what they say and not >> question it. There have been times where in the end they have pushed >> seniority and I have washed my hands of it and done it their way. >> >> It is a tough balance because ultimately I and many others want to be >> good developers and want to learn from more experienced people but >> just want to be sure they can trust the people who stand as their >> mentors. I see an awful lot of rather mediocre developers in the >> industry. I don't want this post to sound like I am being big headed >> either but have discovered that I seem to have some kind of instinct >> for programming that not everyone has. Being in that position isn't >> always pleasant as when you are in a crowd of rather mediocre >> developers it is easy to feel lonely and isolated. If stuck in that >> situation for long enough I am sure even bright developers can start >> to become indifferent and detached. >> >> On the other hand when you get together with other people who "get it" >> the development experience can flow like clockwork and feel pretty >> awesome. I count myself lucky as having experienced that and know what >> it can be like. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "The Java Posse" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
