The end boss at level 10 is hard.

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:14 PM, twitter.com/nfma <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Well Kirk you definitely are a 10!
>
> But I have many years yet to get to that level if I'll ever get there at
> all...
>
>
> On 12 July 2010 21:11, Kirk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> 10? Why aren't you a 10 also?
>>
>> Kirk
>>
>> On Jul 12, 2010, at 9:05 PM, twitter.com/nfma wrote:
>>
>> I usually tend to put things in a different perspective.
>>
>> if you grade all the people doing Software from 0-10. Where Zero is
>> someone that just started fresh on its first job and Ten are The Kent Becks,
>> The Rich Hickeys, The Jim Weiriches, etc... of this world.
>>
>> Where are you in the grade?
>>
>> On 12 July 2010 18:18, Carl Jokl <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> One thing I have noticed but wonder what others think is that some
>>> people just seem to naturally be inclined to being a good developer in
>>> a way which doesn't seem to be teachable. It is as if some individuals
>>> just somehow "get it" and others just don't seem to no matter how long
>>> they spend doing it. It is great when you find such individuals.
>>>
>>> I found it hard in many instances as a new developer because so many
>>> people have strong opinions and will want you to do things their way.
>>> Many of these people though can be wrong. With so many conflicting
>>> opinions it can be hard to know which people to trust. I have seen
>>> some people who will just blindly believe everything their supervisor
>>> says without question. I have sometimes put myself out on a limb by
>>> questioning the technical decisions made by people senior to me. In
>>> spite of trying to do so in a positive way and for the greater good,
>>> often these individuals just want you to do what they say and not
>>> question it. There have been times where in the end they have pushed
>>> seniority and I have washed my hands of it and done it their way.
>>>
>>> It is a tough balance because ultimately I and many others want to be
>>> good developers and want to learn from more experienced people but
>>> just want to be sure they can trust the people who stand as their
>>> mentors. I see an awful lot of rather mediocre developers in the
>>> industry. I don't want this post to sound like I am being big headed
>>> either but have discovered that I seem to have some kind of instinct
>>> for programming that not everyone has. Being in that position isn't
>>> always pleasant as when you are in a crowd of rather mediocre
>>> developers it is easy to feel lonely and isolated. If stuck in that
>>> situation for long enough I am sure even bright developers can start
>>> to become indifferent and detached.
>>>
>>> On the other hand when you get together with other people who "get it"
>>> the development experience can flow like clockwork and feel pretty
>>> awesome. I count myself lucky as having experienced that and know what
>>> it can be like.
>>>
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