Actually, the point here is not just about changes in technology, but your
change in the interpretation and use of the same.

If you are using the same way of problem solving, I would like to question
your progress in handling issues in coding and even project mgt. have you
improved your cycle of development/PM. I believe so and if so, I am not sure
that your perception holds true here in this discussion.

For e.g.) you seem to talk of Java/Scala, but your arguments cite functional
experiences and your interpretations of the same. How well you use that
depends on you and your improvements. No one can assign or measure for
others..

So in my opinion, what you think is different for me and my cycle of
development.

In my opinion, there have been changes in software and harware
specifications. The only issue here is the way and the extent to which we
adapt those..
I include funcitonal changes and individual capabilities of doing the same
too(for this case).

Regards,
jd

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Vince O'Sullivan <[email protected]>wrote:

> On Jul 12, 11:51 am, Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Sorry Vince, but, your argument is complete bollocks:
> >
> > Because there isn't yet a programming language which, by the way, is
> > mathematically provably impossible to create, java and COBOL are
> > equal.
> >
> > (Vince said he wanted a language which, given that you define inputs
> > and expected outputs, writes the program for you).
>
> The reason I say that Java and COBOL are equal is that I, personally,
> am working at the same level of detail in problem solving that I was
> thirty years ago.  A lot has happened around me and the tools that I
> work with are shinier than they've ever been but I'd still be hard
> pushed to say what is different, interlectually, about what I do now
> compared with with I did 1985.  In that respect, there has been little
> to no progress in software development during the whole of my career.
>
> For instance, in the mid-80s I was laying out text boxes and labels on
> IBM green screens using some long forgotten software.  In the mid-90s
> it was VB.  Then can Swing (if anything, a retrograde step) and now
> I'm using JSF 2.0.  Technically, each one is better than before.
> Personally, I'm experimenting with layouts, chosing colours in
> hexadecimal and counting pixels.  Personally, nothing has changed.
>
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