Hi

I think it will have problems for Google then Oracle, Sun had a problem with
Google over Java too. Google could have signed agreement with Sun on the
mobile JVM tech.







On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Robert Casto <[email protected]>wrote:

> I'm kind of hoping that this creates quite an uproar and lots of problems
> for them. I think it is more of a dream though.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Michael Neale 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> yep - I didn't say it didn't make sense, but its disappointing from a
>> community perspective.
>>
>> It still may be a long term loss for them too, lets not discount the
>> knock on effects.
>>
>> On Aug 17, 1:09 pm, Robert Casto <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Oracle only has 3 concerns.
>> >
>> > 1. Larry Ellison
>> > 2. Stock Holders
>> > 3. Serving the wishes of #1 and #2
>> >
>> > It has always been about power and control. Money is a means to an end,
>> and
>> > enabler. It also serves as a good way to measure and compare. This is
>> just
>> > business and they won't loose sleep over what it will do to the
>> community.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:53 PM, work only <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > > Hi
>> >
>> > > Oracle/Sun is protecting Java, you just can't have any company
>> (Google)
>> > > implement a Java environment that does not follow Sun’s
>> specifications! You
>> > > need your Java code to run on any JVM!
>> >
>> > > Plus its about money and IP.
>> >
>> > > Paul
>> >
>> > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Michael Neale <
>> [email protected]>wrote:
>> >
>> > >> I think in summary of the last weeks happenings, we have our answer
>> in
>> > >> how Oracle will treat the community.
>> >
>> > >> Regardless of the right/wrongness of patents, and in particular those
>> > >> generic patents (all with prior art) - the fact that the first big
>> > >> public noise from Oracle regarding Java is a patent threat to google
>> > >> (who were doing something interesting, although not "pure java" by
>> any
>> > >> means) is clearly disappointing to me and many others. The damage
>> that
>> > >> I am concerned about is purely to the community. Both Android /
>> Google
>> > >> and  Oracle will be just fine pretty much no matter what.
>> >
>> > >> Had it been mixed with other announcements, clarifications, or
>> perhaps
>> > >> NOT used patent troll techniques (ie use trademark, or copyright, if
>> > >> they could), then things would be different.
>> >
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