I'm afraid the opensource hardcore Java developers won't have an easy time to get rid of oracle:
* JavaFX, Scala or anything requiring the JVM is out - unless you're running something non-oracle like OpenJDK. * Your IDE is Eclipse or Intellij. Because jDeveloper and Netbeans is Oracle's now. * Your database is not MySQL anymore either. * Your office package is not OpenOffice anymore. * Your CI is not Hudson anymore. Not to mention Oracle and your management don't give a damn about this debate either. Good luck telling them Java is to be disposed off because its owner is considered evil now. I'd like to see that. :-) I'm afraid the choice is not ours any more. So... what d'you have ? :-) On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:34, Romain Pelisse <[email protected]> wrote: > I would that Java is more in his mid forties, so Java buy yourself a fancy > car (Scala ?), start to play the Guitar in a band (JavaFX ? :) ), and > probably work a little bit less... ! > > > On 31 August 2010 11:30, Kevin Wright <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Java is not dead. >> >> Like all good parents, it has sat and patiently raised its children, and >> they are now adults themselves. >> and also, like most parents with grown-up children, it's reached >> retirement age. >> >> So, Java, we salute you, and all you have done in raising >> a successful family. >> Be proud of your achievements... >> and get out there on that golf course to enjoy a less stressful existence >> for the remainder of your years! >> >> >> On 31 August 2010 10:22, Romain Pelisse <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I think that Java is already dead, we simply don't care about it :) >>> >>> I mean the last "dead technology" was C or C++ - people are still using >>> those, the previous one was probably Cobol, still a lot of people using >>> those and there is even backport of tools such as JUnit for Cobol ! >>> >>> Java has been there for so long that it is not going to disappear like >>> Forte 4GL did overnight (but you might people using Forte, so even on this I >>> maybe wrong). Perhaps we have reached a peak and Java will go slowly down, >>> perhaps not. But Java is dead statement are plain nonsense. >>> >>> I think Java is getting older, that for sure. Java is no longer the >>> language of choice for crazy new idea or new project. The slow adoption of >>> Git/Mercurial in the Java world is a good hint to that (I think). late 2008 >>> and early 2009 most of major non Java related Open Souce moved to Git or >>> Mercurial. This shift happened one year later in the Java world. >>> >>> Java is like an old person, he doesn't run as he did in his youth, but he >>> is far from being dead... >>> >>> On 31 August 2010 10:27, Fabrizio Giudici <[email protected] >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>> Hash: SHA1 >>>> >>>> I've first heard that statement around 2001/2002. It was the first >>>> time I started hearing that Java was dead, and at the time I got >>>> seriously worried as I focused on Java since the inception of my >>>> career - at the time, Java was six years old and it was not surprising >>>> for a technology of that age to have reached its peak. I seriously >>>> started looking around to discover what could have been the "next >>>> thing" so I wasn't trapped into a dead end. Then I learned that it was >>>> just nonsense and I stopped worrying. Of course, Java will eventually >>>> die and I have to be careful not to be trapped into a dead end, but I >>>> understood that those statements are not the proper canary in the coal >>>> mine. >>>> >>>> - -- >>>> Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager >>>> Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere." >>>> java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people >>>> [email protected] >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>> Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) >>>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >>>> >>>> iEYEARECAAYFAkx8vPsACgkQeDweFqgUGxcWhgCfVGXxijXEnc47FGmlHj3+7oxS >>>> hlMAniJV5OzoHX2r2aK6x78T4RscTsWL >>>> =lJR0 >>>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "The Java Posse" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Romain PELISSE, >>> "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will >>> insist on coming along and trying to put things in it" -- Terry Pratchett >>> http://belaran.eu/ >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "The Java Posse" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Kevin Wright >> >> mail/google talk: [email protected] >> wave: [email protected] >> skype: kev.lee.wright >> twitter: @thecoda >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "The Java Posse" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > Romain PELISSE, > "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will > insist on coming along and trying to put things in it" -- Terry Pratchett > http://belaran.eu/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. 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