On Sep 10, 1:54 pm, Greg Reddin <[email protected]> wrote: > When Joe said "the future of mobile Java is Android" I think he was > spot on and I suspect that Oracle does not want to lose control of > that -- or the licensing money that goes with it.
Well, the days of Java ME being anything significant are numbered, I'd say. Su..er..Oracle never made ME a compelling platform so far as I can tell (but what do I know, I worked in the SE not ME team). Anyway Android cannot be the future of Java until Google gets some way to have the right to apply the Java trademarks to Java. Until they do so, Android is a move to fracture the Java ecosystem/market etc. The Posse did sorta say this fairly well and I liked that analogy of the Divorce hurting the Kids. As it stands the main thing Android does is confuse the marketplace as to what Java is. As a trademark owned by Oracle it is Oracle who has responsibility to defend the trademark and determine when/where/how it can be used. If one follows the line of reasoning originated by Sun, that Java is software which is compatible with a set of specifications ... well, I think that's a pretty important stand to take (and have a half dozen "Java Compatibility - It Matters" t-shirts in my closet which ought to demonstrate where I stand on this) ... One issue is the process under which one gets rights to use the Java trademarks. There's a difference between pragmatics (which is what most of the Posse was discussing) and legalities right? Legality says that calling Android an implementation of Java is just plain wrong. And of course Google never did so, but that hasn't stopped the market from getting confused into thinking Android is a Java implementation. And obviously the Posse is a bit confused as well. One of the pieces of confusion is to think that Sun open sourced Java. Sun did no such thing. What Sun did was create a project, OpenJDK, which is an open source implementation of software that can be used to build a Java compatible thingy. Java is a set of standards ..etc.. and making that Open Source would be an entirely different thing than the OpenJDK project. + David Herron http://davidherron.com (former resident of SCA22) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
