Please type up that list. Ricky.
-- Ricky Clarkson Java and Scala Programmer, AD Holdings +44 1928 706373 Skype: ricky_clarkson On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 6:07 PM, clay <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sep 9, 11:59 pm, Casper Bang <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Ok, well you still fail to mention some of these - it's rather easy to >> throw out a number like that. Cross platform UI can work yes, but what >> I am saying is that they don't work well enough to be worth the >> trouble. Which other programming language or platform mandates a UI? >> Can you honestly claim Swing has not been an underachiever on the >> desktop? Even newer JVM languages like Fantom have abandoned Swing. > > Cross platform GUI is not worth the trouble? That's a pretty extreme > blanket statement. Like most things, it's a perfect fit for some > projects and not so for others. HTML/JS and Flash are all cross > platform GUI, and I'd hope that I don't need to list applications to > convince you that they are successful. > > Are you saying desktop/applet Java isn't technically competent or > hasn't been popularly adopted? To me, it's definitely both widely > adopted and technically excellent. It's not a technical fit for all > projects: for many apps I would want a GUI in HTML, or for a console > video game or a web browser I would believe that C/C++ and lower-level > GUI SDKs are a better fit, but for other projects where you want Mac/ > Windows/Linux compatability and want more GUI functionality than HTML/ > JS provides, desktop/applet Java is a great toolset. > > I actually started typing up a list of technically amazing or popular > Java dekstop/browser apps, but honestly, I would feel ridiculous > posting it. The prevalence of this technology is just too obvious. > > And sure, newer projects like Fantom, are not using Swing... JavaFX > didn't use Swing either. I don't think Swing is some eternal timeless > perfect tool. Developers are always trying to make better tools. Lots > of amazing apps use it, the Linux/Windows/Mac cross platform nature is > huge for many projects, and when comparing Java to Mono, this is a > major omission on Mono's part. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
