This argumentation of "If you don't like the DSL stuff don't use it"
isn't convincing, at least not for me.

You can't just throw out half of a language. I have to look at code
written by others. I want to use libraries that say "for Scala" (or
even: "For JVM"). I don't want to wait for a library that says "For
Scala, and, oh, we don't use those particular features you didn't
like". That doesn't scale in a world where code is shared between more
than 1 developer.

Also, if you want accurate equals, hashCode, getters, and setters,
then, use Project Lombok. Strings in Switch will be coming in the now
accelerated JDK7 (It's one of the features already completed). Use
guava for a nice collections library. The few places where scala does
significantly more type inference than java are either rarely
applicable, actively disliked (in my experience) by those who would
like to "throw out the DSL stuff", or it's inference of generics in
variable assignments, which is also coming in JDK7 (diamond operator
is also finished and won't have to wait for 8). That's most of the
features on that list covered already, without having to do anything
as drastic as switching to an entirely new language.


If you're going to go with scala, go whole hog. I don't see the point
of using scala as a java with slightly more cleaned up syntax. It's
not worth the trouble of switching if that's all you're going to do.

On Sep 16, 5:12 am, Sean Griffin <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ok, it wasn't my intention to change the subject...not sure how that
> happened.  Also, I think I was incorrect about setters on case
> classes...not sure you can actually do that.  It's been a few months
> since I've actually programmed in it.  I just review everyone else's
> code these days...

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