The client has a requirement that we must be able to sort haha instances
based on their surnames.

Now update that definition so that `a.name` is a concatenation of
`a.firstName` and `a.lastName`, I want to be able to continue using it as `
a.name` though.



On 18 September 2010 09:30, Steel City Phantom <[email protected]> wrote:

> > The longer version:
> >
> > I want to be able to write "a.name = foo" and not have to worry about
> > implementing a getter and a setter until the day where I actually need
> one.
> > When I do, I just implement it and all clients automatically get
> redirected
> > through that getter/setter.
>
> you can implement that today in java.  its very easy to do so as well,
> heres how
>
> public class haha {
>   public String name;
> }
>
> there, now you can do your a.name = foo.  not very hard.  now on your
> refractoring issue, do you REALLY want a language to do your refractoring
> for you?  i certainly don't.  i think this comes down to be VERY careful
> what you wish for, you might just get it.
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 4:22 AM, Reinier Zwitserloot 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> On Sep 18, 5:42 am, Cédric Beust ♔ <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > I think Lombok is a non-starter for a lot of organizations just because
>> it's
>> > basically its own compiler.
>> >
>>
>> No it isn't. It's probably a nonstarter if you use IDEs other than
>> Eclipse and NetBeans, sure, but, "its own compiler"? How so? The
>> language grammar rules do not change.
>>
>> > The longer version:
>> >
>> > I want to be able to write "a.name = foo" and not have to worry about
>> > implementing a getter and a setter until the day where I actually need
>> one.
>> > When I do, I just implement it and all clients automatically get
>> redirected
>> > through that getter/setter.
>>
>> I'm not sure why you find this so important. Why is "a.name = foo" so
>> much nicer than "a.setName(foo)"? Doesn't this entire line of arguing
>> boil down to: I get annoyed having to manually write "getX" and "setX"
>> methods? In which case, sure, but if solving that problem makes one a
>> higher level than java, then java+lombok is higher level, I guess. I'm
>> not sure thats a particularly convenient definitoin for "higher level
>> language" - then just about any feature of any kind means "higher
>> level". We'd need a billion levels.
>>
>> > I would place this one out of scope.
>>
>> [That was about the term "property" including the idea of change
>> listeners]
>>
>> Why? GUI libraries suck without such a feature. Its quite marvelous
>> for any type of MVC design, really.
>>
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