There are some interesting implications to this technology for consumers.  In a 
way, we're already quite removed from direct operation of a car.  I happen to 
ride motorcycles, and also own a manual pick-up truck, an old (1963) British 
sports car, and an automatic modern sedan.  There is a striking difference 
between required awareness and "user-friendliness" of the sedan.  While it's 
significantly faster than the sports car, it is also much safer and easier to 
drive.  We have things like ABS, stability control, and now with an automatic 
in 
cruise control, the car will not stop until I expressly tell it to (arguably, 
this is more dangerous than a computer-controlled car that IS aware of its 
surroundings).  The sports car is much closer to a modern motorcycle, where 
with 
all the technology, we still have to be 100% aware and skillful.

Point is though, I don't think these robot cars will be marketed as fully 
automated vehicles.  It's simply too much of a legal nightmare in the short 
term.  Rather, these will be packaged as driver aids (remember the Lexus that 
can now park itself?).  They won't require drastic changes to the laws.  And 
most importantly, they won't require a lot on the part of the general public to 
accept them.  Think about it, it's one thing to convince a pilot or a train 
operator that this automatic system will do the right thing for them, it's 
quite 
another to convince a prospective car buyer as well as millions of other 
drivers 
they share the road with that the system will not harm them, especially when 
you're not the one making the decision to buy such a car, but are merely 
driving 
along next to one.  But undoubtedly we'll get to a point, where enough people 
will be comfortable with their robot cars and the presence of the steering 
wheel 
will be little more than a formality much of the time.  This gets us to an 
interesting dilemma.  At what point do we actually no longer want the human to 
be able to take control?  What if the person is sleeping or impaired or can't 
see too well?  Or what if they're just not a very good driver?  There is a 
fighter plane control system that was developed within the last decade that 
allows the plane to fly extremely fast and low, following the grade of the 
terrain (to avoid radar detection).  Like many kinds of automated control 
systems, it was designed to relinquish control the moment the pilot made any 
kind of input.  During testing, there were a number of casualties, where the 
system was put under significant stress on approach to a very steep hill or 
even 
a mountain and the test pilots thought they were in trouble, when they thought 
the plane was not going to ascend and pulled on the stick.  Problem was that at 
that point they were beyond their capability as a pilot (and these were very 
experienced people) and promptly crashed into the side of the mountain, when 
had 
they stayed off the controls, the plane would have been fine.

 Alexey
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From: Phil <[email protected]>
To: The Java Posse <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 5:53:42 AM
Subject: [The Java Posse] Re: Google revealed its robot-car

Computers make mistakes too... thinking about it logically, it is
*all* our fault whether the driver is a human or a robot.

A rocket in the 60's crashed because somebody put a '-' instead of a
'+' in their software... an Airbus crash at an air show was  because
the engines didn't spool up quickly enough - this wasn't a direct
computer fault, it was human error, but even in the most automated
cockpit the human element is still present.

Putting a robot in charge of a car is akin to fitting a speed limiter
- you are limiting the ability of the occupants to react to external
events. Robotic cars could only really work in a 100%-robotic
environment.

On Oct 11, 6:21 am, jitesh dundas <[email protected]> wrote:
>  GOOGLE PLANS TO KILL 600,000 WITH ROBOTIC CAR FLEET. :) Jonathan
>
> -----
> Hmmmm, I beg to differ on this point. Actually humans are the ones
> responsible for the numbers. Robots may end up actually saving human s
> some day.
>
> Heard of 'Drunk & Drive' cases and the number of cases involved. Have
> a robot and atleadt it will stop your car when you are too drunk to
> even blink.
>
> If Auto-pilots and space missions can use robots, what is the problem
> with car robots.
>
> Hooray for Google! Keep it up and keep improving.
>
> Cheers,
> Jitesh Dundas
>
> On 10/11/10, Jonathan Fuerth <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Every year, 1.2 million people are killed in road accidents around the
> > world, according to the World Health Organisation, and Google believes its
> > car could halve that number."
>
> > I can see the headline now:
>
> > GOOGLE PLANS TO KILL 600,000 WITH ROBOTIC CAR FLEET.
>
> > :)
>
> > Jonathan
> > On Oct 10, 2010 7:13 PM, "Fabrizio Giudici" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
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