Why would they drop that market? They might stop working on features
that we 'hackers' want on a mac, and thus desktop linux and windows
will eventually catch up and move past the quality of Mac OS X, and
thus mac os X market share amongst developers will slowly start
dropping back down to 0. Great. That's how the world is supposed to
work.

Apple is also obviously never going to make folks develop mac apps on
non-macs, but there's nothing technically stopping them from shipping
locked down macs with XCode in the app store, but I rather doubt
they'd go there. And if they do, okay. fine. I'll buy a modern laptop
that I've pre-checked is filled with hardware that has great linux
drivers. Back when I switched to a mac, all other laptops were very
crappily built, and linux desktop was unusable. These days its still
not quite there, but I can easily live with it. I highly doubt they'll
lock down macs like that (what would be their economic upside? If they
want to force everyone to their specific libraries, they WILL run
afoul of antitrust issues, and the developer community, so they know
that's not on the table, so, given that that kind of utter dominance
is never going to happen anyway, what possible point could there be?)
- but if they do, I don't care. And I don't really see why anyone else
would.

On Oct 25, 9:07 pm, Fabrizio Giudici <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On 10/25/2010 08:50 PM, phil swenson wrote:> well put, Reinier.  Oracle will 
> take over the JVM.  If they are smart,
> > they'll work a deal with Apple to hire away some of their JVM
> > engineers and get the code base.
>
> > I can't imagine that Apple will do the "app store only" mac that
> > others are suggesting.
> > They would largely kill their mac business.  This would mean you
> > couldn't do server side or web dev on a mac.  This would also mean no
> > more photoshop, Fusion, Parallels, Microsoft Office, Google Chrome,
> > Firefox.  So the rest of professional uses would be gone.  Think about
>
> Just for brainstorming... who tells us that they are still interested in
> that market? They make only 33% of revenues out of standard computers
> (I'd like to know how much from servers) and it's always dropping.> it.  To 
> lock it down the mac to an iOS only/app store only scenario -
> > you couldn't even develop iOS apps on it.  To do iOS you need the
> > command line and XCode and the Unix stuff that goes along with it.
>
> Now you need the command line and XCode. Who tells us that they aren't
> working to a development environment that runs inside iOS?> Apple has to 
> develop software and web sites and java code themselves.
> > They going to use Linux for dev in house?
>
> > PLUS:  I'm no lawyer, but from what I see from the EU there would be
> > anti-trust issues.  The EU is way more active than the US on stuff
> > like this.  You can't just tell all the 1000s of mac developers out
> > there to change their business model, kick 30% to Apple or to F off.
>
> I don't understand how the EU antitrust could deal with a corporate that
> wants to stop a line of products.
>
> --
> f.g.

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