The linked page says this was a survey of 1696 people. It's not like this 8% number came from Eclipse auto-update statistics. How were these survey respondents chosen? I didn't dig into the published details linked on the page, but personally I doubt the respondents were a statistically valid sample of the overall Java developer population.
My gut says the ~10% figure isn't wildly off the mark. But I'd be careful about claiming that this survey is "proof that what you see at conferences is a distortion of reality" - I don't think this survey "proves" anything one way or the other about the makeup of the Java developer community. As for me, my work machine runs Windows, but my home machine is a Mac, and I use Eclipse on both. It looks like the survey asks for "primary development operating system," so I'd have answered Windows on the survey. I normally take my Mac with me to conferences though. (Maybe my presence at conferences inflates the perception of full-time Mac usage, when I really only get to use my Mac outside of the office.) Also, I second those who say Eclipse works well on the Mac. Keith On Oct 29, 8:39 pm, Neil Bartlett <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't think Fabrizio made that argument at all, and he didn't say > anything about the relative importance of different kinds of Java > developer. > > IMHO all Java developers are important to the Java community. Even if > Mac users represent only 10% (again, assuming the numbers from Eclipse > are representative), that's not a 10% we can afford to lose. > > Neil > > On Oct 29, 10:56 pm, Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > What kind of silly argument is this? All programmers are not made > > equal. What are you trying to say exactly? That Mac OS X java > > developers aren't all that important because it's only 10%, while at > > the same time saying that those developers that go to conferences use > > Mac OS X rather a lot. That doesn't make any sense: Those developers > > that go to conferences are clearly far more important than those that > > don't. > > > On Oct 29, 9:16 pm, Fabrizio Giudici <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > A couple of days ago we were discussing on numbers. The Eclipse > > > community has some of them: > > > >http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/2010/06/07/trends-from-the-eclipse-c... > > > > Mac OS X is at 8%. So, people guessing under 10% were right, assuming > > > that the Eclipse community is a good sample. Another proof that what you > > > see at conferences is a distortion of reality. > > > > -- > > > f.g. On Oct 29, 8:39 pm, Neil Bartlett <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't think Fabrizio made that argument at all, and he didn't say > anything about the relative importance of different kinds of Java > developer. > > IMHO all Java developers are important to the Java community. Even if > Mac users represent only 10% (again, assuming the numbers from Eclipse > are representative), that's not a 10% we can afford to lose. > > Neil > > On Oct 29, 10:56 pm, Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > What kind of silly argument is this? All programmers are not made > > equal. What are you trying to say exactly? That Mac OS X java > > developers aren't all that important because it's only 10%, while at > > the same time saying that those developers that go to conferences use > > Mac OS X rather a lot. That doesn't make any sense: Those developers > > that go to conferences are clearly far more important than those that > > don't. > > > On Oct 29, 9:16 pm, Fabrizio Giudici <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > A couple of days ago we were discussing on numbers. The Eclipse > > > community has some of them: > > > >http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/2010/06/07/trends-from-the-eclipse-c... > > > > Mac OS X is at 8%. So, people guessing under 10% were right, assuming > > > that the Eclipse community is a good sample. Another proof that what you > > > see at conferences is a distortion of reality. > > > > -- > > > f.g. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
