It has relevance because the languages are similar with similar target audiences. So, for example, C#'s implementation of lambdas can act as a case study for what is likely to happen if Java gains lambdas (i.e., not a lot).
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Rob Ross <[email protected]> wrote: > I think the amount of innovation going on in C# has zero relevance to Java, > compared to the innovation going on with *ANY* language targeted for the > JVM. > > Rob > > On Nov 2, 2010, at 3:07 PM, Ricky Clarkson wrote: > > > While I agree with a lot of that, I think the language innovation going > on in C# is of perhaps more relevance to Java than language innovation in > languages outside the top-10. > > > > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Well, that seems patently unfair. > > > > Casper Bang is trolling, lieing, dreaming, or being insulting. > > > > The posse have repeatedly explained why they don't talk about C#. It's > > fairly obvious from the podcasts they'll gladly talk about everything > > else, including tech that has no relation to java at all such as ObjC: > > > > C# only runs reliably on Windows, and none of the posse own a windows > > machine, which makes talking about it the only thing they an do, and > > fairly uninformed talk at that. I'm glad they aren't trying. Yes, > > there's mono, but that's rather a lot of effort for a second-rate > > development platform. Also, they don't talk about logo or smalltalk > > either - C# doesn't have much of a community (as proven recently by > > the C# world going haywire over microsoft's ASP MVC thing, even though > > the community had built something similar years ago which evidently > > nobody uses, and which microsoft didn't bother using. That's the > > definition of a broken community), which makes it hard to talk about > > it: You could parrot microsoft press releases which is quite boring, > > or you can talk about the language features in C# and contrast them to > > java's features. Which could be interesting, but I believe the posse > > already has their language features plate more than full by talking > > about scala, groovy, and more interesting things like clojure. It > > helps that the posse can run that stuff, and that at least for scala, > > Dick is highly interested in that stuff. > > > > Long story short: What, exactly, do you want? That the posse dive into > > C#? They talk about the stuff they know. It seems a bit unfair to ask > > the purveyors of a free podcast to learn things they don't care for > > just to satisfy your need for validation of your language choice. > > > > On Nov 2, 1:02 pm, CKoerner <[email protected]> wrote: > > > One reason I listen to .Net Rocks is because they also discuss lots of > > > other things besides .Net, including Ruby, Python, Java, iOS > > > Development, etc. I realize Joe and the gang say they don't because > > > they have no interest, but its a shame they discuss only this narrow > > > view of the world of developers. I guess you could count Scala. The > > > JPG (Java Posse Gang) have great chemistry, I'd love them to talk > > > about all kinds of things. > > > > > > Anyway this weeks episode, in case anyone might be interested: > > > > > > http://www.dotnetrocks.com/default.aspx?ShowNum=607 > > > > > > While at DevCon in London, Carl and Richard hosted a discussion with > > > guests Ted Neward and Dierk Konig about the differences and > > > similarities between .NET and the JVM. The discussion ranges over the > > > different languages that are implemented against the platform, how the > > > ownership model of the platforms differs and how that impacts the > > > evolution, right down to how to make the two platforms work and play > > > well with each other. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > . > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > . > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
