Indeed, as was the case with annotations etc. I'll shut up now before
Reiner accuses me of witchcraft or being the devil.

On Nov 2, 11:29 pm, Ricky Clarkson <[email protected]> wrote:
> It has relevance because the languages are similar with similar target
> audiences.  So, for example, C#'s implementation of lambdas can act as a
> case study for what is likely to happen if Java gains lambdas (i.e., not a
> lot).
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Rob Ross <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I think the amount of innovation going on in C# has zero relevance to Java,
> > compared to the innovation going on with *ANY* language targeted for the
> > JVM.
>
> > Rob
>
> > On Nov 2, 2010, at 3:07 PM, Ricky Clarkson wrote:
>
> > > While I agree with a lot of that, I think the language innovation going
> > on in C# is of perhaps more relevance to Java than language innovation in
> > languages outside the top-10.
>
> > > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > Well, that seems patently unfair.
>
> > > Casper Bang is trolling, lieing, dreaming, or being insulting.
>
> > > The posse have repeatedly explained why they don't talk about C#. It's
> > > fairly obvious from the podcasts they'll gladly talk about everything
> > > else, including tech that has no relation to java at all such as ObjC:
>
> > > C# only runs reliably on Windows, and none of the posse own a windows
> > > machine, which makes talking about it the only thing they an do, and
> > > fairly uninformed talk at that. I'm glad they aren't trying. Yes,
> > > there's mono, but that's rather a lot of effort for a second-rate
> > > development platform. Also, they don't talk about logo or smalltalk
> > > either - C# doesn't have much of a community (as proven recently by
> > > the C# world going haywire over microsoft's ASP MVC thing, even though
> > > the community had built something similar years ago which evidently
> > > nobody uses, and which microsoft didn't bother using. That's the
> > > definition of a broken community), which makes it hard to talk about
> > > it: You could parrot microsoft press releases which is quite boring,
> > > or you can talk about the language features in C# and contrast them to
> > > java's features. Which could be interesting, but I believe the posse
> > > already has their language features plate more than full by talking
> > > about scala, groovy, and more interesting things like clojure. It
> > > helps that the posse can run that stuff, and that at least for scala,
> > > Dick is highly interested in that stuff.
>
> > > Long story short: What, exactly, do you want? That the posse dive into
> > > C#? They talk about the stuff they know. It seems a bit unfair to ask
> > > the purveyors of a free podcast to learn things they don't care for
> > > just to satisfy your need for validation of your language choice.
>
> > > On Nov 2, 1:02 pm, CKoerner <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > One reason I listen to .Net Rocks is because they also discuss lots of
> > > > other things besides .Net, including Ruby, Python, Java, iOS
> > > > Development, etc.  I realize Joe and the gang say they don't because
> > > > they have no interest, but its a shame they discuss only this narrow
> > > > view of the world of developers.  I guess you could count Scala. The
> > > > JPG (Java Posse Gang) have great chemistry, I'd love them to talk
> > > > about all kinds of things.
>
> > > > Anyway this weeks episode, in case anyone might be interested:
>
> > > >http://www.dotnetrocks.com/default.aspx?ShowNum=607
>
> > > > While at DevCon in London, Carl and Richard hosted a discussion with
> > > > guests Ted Neward and Dierk Konig about the differences and
> > > > similarities between .NET and the JVM. The discussion ranges over the
> > > > different languages that are implemented against the platform, how the
> > > > ownership model of the platforms differs and how that impacts the
> > > > evolution, right down to how to make the two platforms work and play
> > > > well with each other.
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