Nobody ever bought rad and websphere because they were weened on eclipse. 
Websphere is almost always bought by some one else not involved in experiencing 
the headaches that is ws. The other reason is because one needs some other 
enterprisey IBM product also called ws. The heritage is just a coincidence, 
many times rad is bundled after one buys some heavy enterprise license.

On 25/11/2010, at 7:04 AM, Kevin Wright <[email protected]> wrote:

> Eclipse is Rational Application Developer "Lite"
> 
> By open-sourcing it, IBM were able to attract a lot of developers to 
> strengthen the foundation of their flagship developer product at no cost to 
> themselves (and the extras in RAD are very much *not* open-source, or free).  
> Plus, a large user-base of existing eclipse users makes the learning curve 
> for RAD very shallow - another useful selling point.
> 
> As always, follow the money.  Someone, somewhere, is *always* profiting from 
> any "free" product.  
> 
> On 24 November 2010 19:57, Chris Adamson <[email protected]> wrote:
> Oh come on, Vince, don't play dumb. I'm saying that they're developed
> and given away free in order to support the *Java* platform, for
> webapps, mobile, and desktop.  That's obviously in Sun/Oracle's self-
> interest, which explains why they offer NetBeans.  With Eclipse, I
> think there was an effort to legitimize and evangelize an Eclipse
> application platform, written in Java but using SWT and other add-on
> technologies from the Eclipse Foundation (such as OSGi).
> 
> --Chris
> 
> On Nov 24, 2:59 am, "Vince O'Sullivan" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Nov 23, 7:58 pm, Chris Adamson <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Anyways, I get the sense that IDEs have become strategic assets essential 
> > > to the well being of specific platforms, and are usually developed by 
> > > those platforms' sponsors and usually given away for free to foster 
> > > development for that platform.  IDEA, as independent pay-ware, is 
> > > something of an anachronism here.
> >
> > You're saying that Eclipse and NetBeans are given away free for the
> > strategic purpose of promoting Windows, Unix and Apple platforms by
> > the sponsors of those platforms?
> 
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "The Java Posse" group.
> To post to this group, send email to [email protected].
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> [email protected].
> For more options, visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Kevin Wright
> 
> mail / gtalk / msn : [email protected]
> pulse / skype: kev.lee.wright
> twitter: @thecoda
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "The Java Posse" group.
> To post to this group, send email to [email protected].
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> [email protected].
> For more options, visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The 
Java Posse" group.
To post to this group, send email to [email protected].
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
[email protected].
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.

Reply via email to