Fair enough.  There are plenty of other Sun misadventures to abuse.
Next time I'll pick on Darkstar (the game server nobody wanted, but in
Java) or Looking Glass (the desktop nobody wanted, but in Java)
instead.  And that's not even getting into JavaFX (the Flash wannabe
that… well, you get the idea).

Still, 8 people seems pretty big to me.  I met most of the Swing team
around 2005 on a java.net trip to Sun, and (accounting for people not
in the office that day), I'm not sure it was more than 8 people,
despite being demonstrably far more popular and strategically
important than Wonderland.  And weren't we all just complaining the
other week that Apple only had four people doing *all* of their Java
port?  By comparison, 8 on Wonderland seems pretty rich.

--Chris

On Nov 25, 6:35 am, Carl Jokl <[email protected]> wrote:
> Is Wonderland going to be the new item to keep picking on like CORBA.
>
> 1) Yes, there is actually a community who want something like second
> life but open.
> 2) Project Wonderland was being developed by a very small team (about
> 8 people) in Sun Labs. Sun Labs is was a entirely different division
> of Sun than the divison which would work on SWIG etc so I don't see
> that Wonderland was pulling resources away form core Java. Some of the
> work done on Wonderland was by Interns (placement students) for
> example.
> 3) It has been said that if there is demand for a project it will
> survive even if corporate backing is pulled out. Guess what? Open
> Wonderland is still very much alive even without Sun / Oracle backing.
> 4) I am involved in Virtual World Research an use Open Wonderland as
> my Virtual Environment of choice. As such expect that every time
> anyone makes a disparaging remark about Project Wonderland and
> assuming I notice I will likely keep making responses like this.
>
> In summary: STOP PICKING ON PROJECT WONDERLAND.
>
> *sigh*

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