On 6 December 2010 14:20, Liam Knox <[email protected]> wrote: > I realize exactly what I said in this thread and my frustration is clear. >
<timeout> please everyone, let's just end this thread here and get back to more constructive topics I don't care how you wish to dress up the differences in the two roles or > your apparent need for a pure technical justification. > IMHO he has done himself no favors if he really wants to further his > influence in Java by snubbing this opportunity. > This is as much political as it is technical, but if you have a seat at the > table, or even a table, you have some say. > > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Weiqi Gao <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 12/06/2010 04:38 AM, Liam Knox wrote: >> >>> From my point of view its not a character assassination. I am just >>> very curious for the polarized views and as mentioned I cannot ignore >>> that the 2 blogs can be or should be taken as distinct. >>> >> >> You may have not realized it when you said it in this thread, but things >> like: >> >> "I do not rate the guy." >> >> "Guice is no fork-join. Bob is no Doug" >> >> "So what the hell is this all about then?" >> >> "Sour grapes. Simple as that." >> >> "If you do not see any hint of sour grapes in that you must be completely >> blind." >> >> are not legitimate technical arguments, IMHO. >> >> I would say if you really care about the language then contribute in the >>> JSR space if given the opportunity. >>> >> >> You seems to imply that "the language" and "the JSR space" are one and the >> same thing. >> >> Even if you rephrase the above sentence as >> >> If you really care about the JSR space then contribute in the JSR space >> if given the opportunity >> >> it does not capture the temporal variation of people's attitudes. A >> person should be allowed to "care" at time t[0] (before the JCP SE/EE EC >> election) but "not to care" at a subsequent time t[1] (after the election.) >> >> If you have problems with how that >>> works you will have a better chance of changing things by being involved >>> in it than by not. >>> >> >> This is true only if the situation is still salvageable. When all hope is >> gone, a person should be allowed to give up. >> >> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Miroslav Pokorny >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> I did not say anything against Bob, its abouot being fair, you cant >>> automatically assume Oracle = bad. For me it just seems strange to >>> join something you dont believe in, especially after they dont let >>> you in. If it sounds like im saying something personal then i >>> personally apologize. >>> >> >> -- >> Weiqi Gao >> [email protected] >> http://www.weiqigao.com/blog/ >> > -- Cheers, Stuart -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
