I have to agree with you Greg. There are lots of social ill's as a result of this kind of behavior. Some call it liberating. I call it dangerous and destructive. The genie is out of the bottle and I think putting it back in is going to be near impossible. Society wants to legalize and normalize all deviant behavior it would seem. Everything is in question and they want their way of life to be accepted and protected I guess.
Many of our social ills such as divorce, aids, many forms of crime, murder, rape, and much more; are all linked to this kind of attitude toward sex. If society respected people again, and the sanctity of marriage and its role in society, then many of these problems would go away. Why do girls get pregnant at 14 years of age? They are looking for love and a nurturing environment. They don't have this at home and are looking for it elsewhere. We need to protect families, and not destroy them. Many will disagree with me but you have realize there are lots of problems that wouldn't exist if people respected women, marriage, and family. On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Greg Reddin <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Carl Jokl <[email protected]> wrote: > > There are some arrogant, and unpleasant types around. I believe such > > people make life unpleasant and difficult for many of the more civil > > men, let alone any women (though perhaps at least the men don't > > usually have to worry about being hit on [make a pass on (us)]). > > Another problem occurs when a typical office situation develops with > only men. Men become comfortable "being men" in the office environment > and let their guard down because there are no women around. Then, when > a woman does enter the environment, the men sometimes have a hard time > being considerate of the now diverse workgroup. Some fail to even make > an effort. > > I'm not trying to justify this kind of behavior. I'm just saying it's > possible for it to "accidentally" develop. Or rather, that it takes an > intentional concerted effort on our part, as men, to make sure women > feel welcome and comfortable in our work environment. > > > Maybe I am a little bitter given I wouldn't dream of mistreating a > > female professional in the way described and don't like the idea of > > the community being blanket branded as sexist. > > I know this is not going to be a popular view, but since everyone else > is so willing to spew out their perspectives I'll go ahead and spew > mine :) You are not forced to agree with me or even listen to my > viewpoint. I can't help but point out that much of this seems like a > natural effect of the sexual revolution and our larger culture's > obsession with sex. I heard someone say recently that we've both made > much more and much less of sex than it should be. We've made it much > less by cheapening it to be a "normal" interaction between any two > consenting people rather than an interaction that is reserved for only > the most intimate relationships. We've made too much of it by allowing > it to infiltrate *everything* in our lives and putting it on too high > a pedestal. There's a healthy place for sex to exist in any culture. > Suppressing it and pretending it's not an issue is unhealthy. > Flaunting it and idolizing it is equally unhealthy. This does not > excuse *any* of the criminal behavior that has been noted in this > thread. But the fact is that our culture has made people -- especially > women -- sex objects. This kind of crap will continue to happen until > we rebel against that and start treating people as people again. The > revolution promised freedom from useless moral obligations. Instead it > has enslaved us to our desires. With that I've probably stepped > outside the bounds of what this list is about so I'll stop. > > Greg > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > -- Robert Casto www.robertcasto.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
