Certainly there's money and politics involved, but what makes Hudson valuable in the first place is Kohsuke's philosophy towards ease of use, rapid improvement, and extensibility, as other people have stated in this thread. CruiseControl was a great idea when it came out, but it was all but forgotten a few years after Hudson showed how continuous integration could be done far better.
If Ted Farrell is the new head of Hudson, check out his track record on his executive bio: http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/press/Spokespeople/016474 "Mr. Farrell is responsible for the technical and strategic direction of Oracle's frameworks and development tools products, including Oracle JDeveloper, Oracle Application Development Framework (ADF), Oracle Metadata Services (MDS) and Oracle WebCenter Framework." I haven't heard much interest from Java developers in those products, compared with interest in competing products. I think over the next few years Hudson will evolve into something that aligns better with Oracle's strategic objectives. Maybe it will integrate with other Oracle products. What it probably won't focus on is following the evolving needs of engineers. Consider Oracle's decision to remove Ruby support from NetBeans, perhaps because Oracle has no strategic plan to monetize Ruby. What good parts of Hudson will Oracle consider unprofitable? On another note, the open issues list for Jenkins is an interesting read: http://issues.jenkins-ci.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?mode=hide&requestId=10230 On Feb 2, 12:49 pm, Manfred Moser <[email protected]> wrote: > This interesting insight popped up on the jugleaders mailing list and was > posted by Stephan Jansen from BEJUG/parleys.com and I think it should be > shared and bring some light into things as well. > > > Guys,>> During an IOUC session last week, Ted Farrell debriefed us on his > > view> on the Hudson debacle (too bad it wasn't recorded).> But basically it > > came to this (and please correct me if I'm wrong):>> Kohsuke Kawaguchi (aka > > KK) has worked for many years on Hudson during> business hours paid by Sun > > Microsystems.> KK feels that he is Mr. Hudson and could make money with the > > project> by taking "his" baby and the community over to CloudBees. The VC> > > behind Cloudbess even placed some pressure on different parties> involved > > to make this happen!>> It's obvious that Oracle wouldn't allow this to > > happen.>> Now the fork has happened and both parties can now compete on> > > different implementations. Oracle (fyi - Ted Farrell is chief> architect > > for Tools and Middleware at Oracle) is fully committed to> continue the > > investment in Hudson (see > > also>http://wiki.hudson-ci.org/display/HUDSON/Home)>> There's always two > > sides to a story and when money and pride is> involved it can get very > > ugly.>> Cheers,>> Stephan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
