You don't have to auto-gen pages in grails or any other framework.

I'm more familiar with rails, but generally for anything "real" you hand
code your html and don't use generators.  I would advise using rails over
grails anyway as there is a much larger support system out there (books,
groups, etc)

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Lenny P <[email protected]> wrote:

> So here is a quick summary of what I found out in my lengthy research:
> It went down to 5 candidates, JSF, GWT, RIFE, Tapestry & Grails.
> I had a couple of must-have criteria:
> - A web designer has to be able to read/write the app via DreamWeaver
> or other non-programmer tool
> - UI has to be built in a definition language, not a programming
> language, i.e. no parent.addXXX(child)
> - Easy to use, and integrates with the current web projects in use.
>
> Basically, there are three categories:
> - JSP-like (JSF, Wicket, Tapestry)
> - Rails-like (RIFE, Grails)
> - GWT-like (GWT)
>
> Tapestry is overall simpler to use than both JSF and Wicket,
> while having the same feature set.
> Also, Tapestry doesn't have the duplication of effort problem that
> Wicket has. (between Java and templates)
> Tapestry's files are readable/writable by DreamWeaver and keep their
> 'form' in it the best.
>
> Rails-like frameworks fail the designer test, since most pages are
> auto-generated.
> Also, they are incompatible with current way of doing things in the
> web world,
> and absolutely unapproachable by web designers
>
> GWT was a nightmare to set up and integrate, but once that was done (3
> grueling days),
> it was easy to use and add components.
> The designer integration is spotty, but doable (via UiBinder)
> and there is GUI builder tool support.
>
> Overall winner - Tapestry
> Close runner-up - GWT
>
> I decided to use both, since they can be meshed together quite easily.
>
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