On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Kevin Wright <[email protected]>wrote:
> > > On 3 March 2011 12:10, Phil <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I think the emphasis should not be to "learn a new language" but >> "don't stop learning". >> >> > The risk, of course, is to choose a framework in your chosen language > because you can stay in your comfort zone. The framework is implemented in > Java, you know Java, so it'll be easy... right? > > Why do you always focus on learning languages and say nothing about learning frameworks ? Just switching languages doesnt solve any problem - on the other hand frameworks solve some problems, we most of the time put the glue in teh right spot to make it all work. and that's the point at which you've stopped learning (or curtailed it, at > least). Stepping outside of your comfort zone is much of the point of the > exercise. Otherwise it would be like going to the gum to do a bit of > body-building, and only working with those weights that you can already > comfortably lift. > > > >> It doesn't have to be a language specifically, the thing is to not sit >> inside your comfort zone all the time - not least because the world >> moves on even if you don't. Keeping an eye on up-and-coming languages >> is part of that process. I started playing with Java about a year >> before I started using it commercially. Recently it's been Android and >> unstructured databases keeping me busy outside work (when I'm not >> familiarising myself with yet another new framework) but with half an >> eye on picking up Scala or something else functional as soon as I >> think it is mainstream enough (read: cropping up regularly enough in >> job postings). >> >> On Mar 3, 11:22 am, Fabrizio Giudici <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > On 03/03/2011 04:44 AM, Miroslav Pokorny wrote: >> > >> > > I could learn French, I could learn German I could learn some language >> > > that 5 people in Papua know but whats the point - we live in a world >> > > dominated by English. Computer languages are no different. >> > >> > This is a very important point, both for focusing pros and cons of >> > learning a new language. Summing up: >> > >> > 1. to live, earn and communicate, it's enough for you to learn English. >> > 2. a completely different language would not primarily let you live, >> > earn and communicate better, but would you understand things under a >> > broader perspective. In turn, this could improve things in your live, >> > earnings and communication in future. >> > >> > Personally, I'm glad to have learned Latin at the high school, even >> > though now I only can read simple documents. Too bad I didn't keep >> > myself in practice. Even more, in a second life I'd choose the other >> > high school where they teach ancient greek. >> > >> > -- >> > Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager >> > Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere." >> > java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici -www.tidalwave.it/people >> > [email protected] >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "The Java Posse" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > Kevin Wright > > gtalk / msn : [email protected] > <[email protected]>mail: [email protected] > vibe / skype: kev.lee.wright > quora: http://www.quora.com/Kevin-Wright > twitter: @thecoda > > "My point today is that, if we wish to count lines of code, we should not > regard them as "lines produced" but as "lines spent": the current > conventional wisdom is so foolish as to book that count on the wrong side of > the ledger" ~ Dijkstra > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > -- mP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
