No, parallelization is only a special type of concurrency (at least as
the terms are used in the software engineering discipline, if you
don't like those terms I'll quote C. S. Lewis, "When I use a word,'
Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I
choose it to mean — neither more nor less").  The latter is growing in
importance when dealing with operations that are CPU bound, though
realistically still not a major concern for most applications today.
The former is a major concern in virtually any software application.

On Mar 6, 5:25 am, Russel Winder <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 2011-03-05 at 22:15 -0800, Nick Brown wrote:
> > Parallelization probably isn't too big of a deal for today's typical
> > software engineer.  Concurrency, on the other hand is, regardless of
> > the number of cores on your system.  How many people still write
>
> [ . . . ]
>
> You are joking aren't you?
>
> Concurrency and parallelism are subtly different things whilst at the
> same time being subtly the same thing -- at least in computing jargon.
> The average software engineer / software developer / programmer appears
> to be fairly poor at either.  Parallelization is just as big a deal as
> concurrency.
>
> The interesting question is "When?" as much as "How?".
>
> The shift from increasing clock speed to increasing core count was
> fairly inevitable given chip engineering and physics.  The dominance of
> the computational, aka HPC, mindset with regard to the new era of
> pervasive parallelism was also fairly predictable.  The reemergence of
> actor models, dataflow models, CSP, data parallelism models, was
> definitely predictable -- and due to their history of being related to
> speeding up computation in HPC reinforces the HPC-related mindset in the
> discussion.  The rise of GPGPU for data parallel computations as well as
> graphics ones -- graphics ones generally being a form of data parallel
> computation, of course -- has reinforced the focus being on computation.
>
> Application such as OpenOffice.org and that ilk have very restricted
> parallelization opportunities, they are even-driven systems best handled
> by event-driven architectures and frameworks   -- though the event
> handlers may be able to harness parallelism in short bursts.
>
> The focus surely has to be not on so much on parallelization of a given
> application but on the parallelization of the whole set of applications
> running concurrently (*).  This is as much an operating system and
> hypervisor issue as an application programming one.
>
> The real problem the chip manufacturers have is memory, not processors.
> Tilera, Intel, NVIDIA, AMD, etc. have basically solved the problem of
> packing more processors in grids.  Great for HPC computation, irrelevant
> for OpenOffice.org.  Tilera even have nice ways of creating processor
> groups by making the hypervisor integral firmware (I believe Intel are
> going this route as well).  This gives the beginnings of an integrated
> view of hardware, operating systems (plural), and applications.  The
> problem is and will remain memory bandwidth.
>
> The era of a single central memory is coming to an end.  Processors will
> have to move to distributed memory.  The new issues will be more
> analogous to the distributed computing issues of clusters, but at
> processor speeds not network speeds.
>
> In this context, shared-memory multi-threading isn't even an enabling
> technology, it's a backward looking hindrance.  Does this mean that
> Java, indeed the whole JVM milieu as we know it ceases to be relevant?
> There is a danger of this.  The Java Platform has increasingly become a
> "big iron" platform with a traditional view of "big iron".  The new
> systems have to be based of graphs of smaller processors.  Can the Java
> Platform cope with this second phase of what is the Multicore
> Revolution?
>
> (*)  Notice the original meaning of concurrent here, a synonym for
> parallel, computing has hijacked this term with a subtly different
> meaning :-)
>
> --
> Russel.
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