And yet so many products/projects use Jelly an XML based language if im not
mistaken. Its a wonder why that ever took off but it did some time in the
past.

2011/3/9 phil swenson <[email protected]>

> I think xml for ant is ok for a simple build.  Problem is if you are doing
> anything of significance, your simple build starts needing conditionals,
> variables, loops, and more complex constructs than procedures.
>
> Then you start hacking ant to do this (sorta) and it becomes a nightmare.
>  There is a reason we don't write our applications in XML.  (As Casper says)
> XML a terrible programming language.
>
> If anything XML hell is under-blown, because I keep seeing the same
> horrible mistakes made everywhere I go.  Unmaintainable, huge,
> un-debuggable, un-grokable, crazy slow builds. People jumping through manual
> hoops because automation via XML is too much of a PITA.  Notice in the
> Ruby/Python/Groovy world everyone has tons of automation.  They have
> auto-deployments to EC2, database migrations, tons of cool test/bdd
> frameworks, dev/test/prod environment setup, dynamic configurations, etc.
>  They always are leading the way in automation.  Yes, I know some of this
> exists in the Java world, but it's usually done long after it's invented in
> the dynamic lang world.
>
> 2011/3/7 Cédric Beust ♔ <[email protected]>
>
>

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