Sorry, Tor...didn't mean to offend. I actually was not trying to poke fun at those specific things. More about how incredibly enthusiastic your switches are. We all switch between things we like. When you switch, you don't seem to go from 'I kinda like' to 'another kinda like'. Instead, you seem to go from absolutely loving to absolutely loving. In some ways that is admirable. When you commit you seem to be fully committed. Then again, not knowing you, this is only based on hearing you on the podcast. You may be entirely different in real life. So, consider it a joke about the Java Posse Tor character, not the real person. :)
Again, I apologize if taken hard. It was *very much* intended as a joke. On Mar 15, 2:36 pm, Tor Norbye <[email protected]> wrote: > Where do I start...? > > Let's start with IDEs. I am *not* an Eclipse fanboy. There are many > things I don't like about it -- starting with the workspace concept, > and lots of annoying bugs and behaviors. > > I -was- a NetBeans fan. That was not because I was "a company man", > but because I personally worked on it for several years, I knew many > of the core developers, I filed hundreds if not thousands of bugs over > the years which meant that over time the IDE improved and removed many > of the things that initially annoyed me, so the IDE worked really well > for -me-. I'm having to do a lot of XML editing these days and I think > the XML editor in Eclipse leaves a lot to be desired. However, it > doesn't seem to me that Oracle really has its heart in it anymore, so > I've mentally moved on. > > Now that I'm working on Android I've given Eclipse a deeper look than > in the past, and after a few weeks I found myself productive with it. > Six months in I'm just as productive as I was with NetBeans -- the > Eclipse Java editor is very strong, and I've rewired all my > motorskills to deal with the Eclipse keybindings and workflow. In > short, I'm liking it, not with the same level of passion that I had > for NetBeans when I worked on core editing stuff for JavaScript and > Ruby, but nevertheless I can code and have fun with it. > > Now, I think what has irritated more listeners is that I'm praising > Android a lot more on the podcast. But if you'll listen to older > episodes, you'll find that when I got my first iphone, and later my > ipad, I praised those too. They were much better than what I had > before, and I enjoyed using them a lot. I still find them to be very > good products. > > Does that make me a "traitor" for suddenly deciding that I like > Android better? No! It's pragmatic. I have already mentioned on the > podcast why I now prefer Android -- but in case you missed that > episode, to me features like the speech keyboard, vector mobile maps, > and notification are "killer" features that I use -all- the time and > they'e more important to me than the thickness of the device. And it's > by no means the only feature. For me, something as simple as browsing > and installing apps on the phone is just a lot better. On the ipad, as > soon as I've picked an app to install, clicking "Install" will -exit- > the app store, scroll the home screen 5 pages to the right and "show > me" the icon for the app which is downloading. Which of course I can't > click because it's not done downloading yet. On Android, clicking > install starts the install but takes you back to the previous page > such that you can continue scrolling down the charts and seeing what > else to try. > > For -me-, and for the features I use, it's just a better experience. > That doesn't mean I think it's the same for everybody. But I think > it's unfair to label this as "paycheck fanboy-ism" when I'm making it > very clear what I prefer about it. There are many technologies at > Google, and there were many technologies at Oracle and Sun that I > never talked about. I don't think I spout the party line. When I like > something, I talk about it. I mean, come on, I've even talked about > ABBA! Repeatedly! > > -- Tor > > P.S. Chris -- I do use both vi and emacs regularly! But never for code > editing. Vim for quick file edits, usually config files, and emacs for > macros and filetypes like markdown. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
