On Mar 22, 3:44 pm, phil swenson <[email protected]> wrote: > I think what Fantom (or any other language trying to gain traction) needs is > a really good full stack web framework. Before Rails, Ruby was very > obscure.
Hmm it's true that Ruby got a boost due to Rails, but I am not sure you can generalize like that. Rails unique use of generators and conventions is a result of dynamic typing and very (too?) flexible syntax. And looking around it seems as if RoR caters to a certain niche of greenfield/grassroot development and its adoption has peeked [http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/paperinfo/tpci/Ruby.html]. > So my advice to the Scala, Fantom, Mirah, etc world would be: copy Rails. > That's what Groovy did and Groovy has definitely gained traction. > And when I say copy Rails - I mean the whole stack. So by whole stack I > mean: build/automation framework, database framework, interactive command > line console, database migrations, easy configuration, set directory > structure, dev/test/production modes, built in testing framework. Odd that you mention Mirah in this context, given that its design goal is to cater to no runtime library whatsoever. > Even Java doesn't have such a stack. No because your listed criteria would require a benevolent dictator. In fact, it sounds an awful lot like the Microsoft world. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
