One thing that everyone is focusing on here is that these web-based IDEs are remote/cloud services, which most of them are. But the best one I've used I ran locally.
http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/main/products/webvelocity CINCOM are well known for their Smalltalk development tools, Web Velocity which is their new cloud/web based IDE for Smalltalk runs in the browser ( the IDE area is a giant <canvas/> element ) which full completion, test running, database integration, version control yadda yadda yadda. The system is written in CINCOM Smalltalk using the Seaside web framework and was surprisingly really nice to use when I was tinkering and experimenting. Sadly it seems the download/screencast page is currently 404ing - however this is a link to one of James Robertson's old screencasts on it - http://goo.gl/1GUo3 Mark -- "Great artists are extremely selfish and arrogant things" — Steven Wilson, Porcupine Tree On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Moandji Ezana <[email protected]> wrote: > A private cloud IDE could be interesting. > > For example, a co-located team working on and maintaining a lot of > different applications. Setting up and managing all those different > environments yourself is kind of a pain. If starting to work on a different > application and environment was as easy as typing in a URL, that would be > nice. And if it did all the version control checkout, CI, etc., along with > spinning up a VM with the requisite web server, database, message queues and > so on for testing (kind of like an Amazon Machine Image), that would be > awesome. > > Moandji > > > On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Steven Herod <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I've been using a Cloud based IDE with Force.com development. >> >> (Which has both an 'in the browser' editor and a Eclipse instance >> which pushes your code to the cloud for complation). I'm also using a >> third party .Net application which replaces the official Force.com >> IDE. >> >> They all suck. They are slow, unreliable and poorly featured. >> >> My Firefox instance regularly consumes > 1 GB of ram with 2-4 tabs >> open, and it gives me the code editing power of Notepad. IE is too >> slow, Chrome often not compatible. >> >> Beyond that, little things like losing your internet connection (for a >> few seconds, even intermittently) break your flow and with some >> flaking session handing and things like back button/refresh button >> issues, you lose your work more often than you would like. >> >> >> So, in short, no, I don't recommend a cloud based IDE. >> >> On Mar 30, 10:45 pm, Neil Bartlett <[email protected]> wrote: >> > It's a great idea for some users and some use-cases. No it's not for >> > everybody, but it doesn't need to be. >> > >> > A really intriguing possibility of Eclipse Orion is the ability to run >> > in mixed mode, with a subset of developers coding in Orion, while >> > another subset codes in the traditional Eclipse desktop application. >> > This isn't possible right now but it's on the roadmap. >> > >> > Neil >> > >> > On Mar 28, 3:53 pm, Moandji Ezana <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > A lot are being announced, at the moment: >> > >> > > Eclipse's Orion and OrionHub >> > > eXo's Cloud IDE <http://www.infoq.com/news/2011/03/cloud-ide-java-exo >> > >> > > Cloud9 IDE <http://cloud9ide.com/> >> > >> > > From the user's side, not being able to work at all if the IDE >> provider >> > > service goes down seems like a big drawback. The only advantage seems >> to be >> > > maybe not having to set up a local environment. >> > >> > > From the provider's side, I wonder if this is even a viable business. >> > > Considering that paid Java IDEs are a pretty niche business, can a >> provider >> > > with ongoing costs make any money at it? >> > >> > > Would you use a cloud-based IDE? >> > >> > > Moandji >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "The Java Posse" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
