On Aug 11, 2011, at 11:21 PM, Cédric Beust ♔ wrote:

> 
> On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Ralph Goers <[email protected]> wrote:
> For all you know the size of the industry could be larger without them.
> 
> Absolutely, I never claimed otherwise. I did claim that the outcome could go 
> the other way as well, hence the importance of having a balanced discussion 
> instead of a strident "Patents are evil". I'm glad that the discussion has 
> already unearthed some supporting data on both sides of the argument.

If you think that most of the argument is "patents are evil" then you are 
mistaken. That is equivalent to saying "money is evil" when the actual phrase 
is "the love of money is the root of all evil".  Quite a big difference. In 
this case, the argument is "software patents as implemented and enforced in the 
U.S. causes more harm than good". I've seen your emails where you admit the 
many problems with patents as implemented. As many have already argued with 
you, the proposed "solutions" either don't fix the problems, make them worse, 
or are otherwise unworkable, leading most of us to conclude we would simply be 
better off without them. That doesn't make them evil.

Ralph

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