On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 11:38 -0400, Josh Berry wrote: [ . . . ] > I think that mucks with the timeline of most of these languages. > Weren't a good many of them started under Sun's reign. (And you left > out clojure.)
Groovy was 2003, Scala 2004, after that things get hazy :-) I am not sure the Sun/Oracle thing matters much, except that Sun itself had stagnated such that it was choked with pond weed, whereas that is unlikely ever to happen to Oracle -- at least in the same way. Clojure is a realization of what many claim to be the only programming language that you ever need, and that the history of programming languages is one of people failing to realize that car, cdr and cons are the only operations you ever need -- or at least that s-expressions are the only expression one needs to express any expression. > Not to mention you are ignoring the vast progress MS has made in > language design in the .NET world. It isn't shocking that many in the > JVM world finally started realizing that, yes, Java has stagnated > heavily for a long time now. It isn't beyond hope, per se. Just very > stagnate. Hasn't M$ decided that C++ is actually a good thing and that CLR was probably an aberration caused by lack of Intel. -- Russel. ============================================================================= Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: sip:[email protected] 41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: [email protected] London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder
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