There's too much competition in this space.

We have java, which clearly put a stake in the ground and has a 
gigantinormous community.

There's scala, who was here early enough and has enough 'different' about 
it that its become a smaller sattelite sun of the java platform, sucking 
away some of the more 'willing to try out new stuff' people of the java 
community and also some from elsewhere.

But the clustermess that's Kotlin+Ceylon+Fantom+a few other wannabees is 
just annoying. I think at least one of those 3+ languages has a very good 
thing going, probably all of them, but now not one of those is going to get 
the critical mass necessary to truly become a living, breathing sun of its 
own.

That's a real shame, I think. I have no idea how to fix it, either. For 
what its worth I think I might want to give Kotlin the benefit of the 
doubt, if only because they have a different outlook vs. everything else on 
the JVM (and the correct outlook, that is: Tools first. Nobody programs in 
notepad, don't develop a new language as if people do).

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