I know next to nothing about Grails but is there no option to do all that
stuff at build time, and if not, why not?
On Mar 20, 2012 8:35 AM, "mgkimsal" <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On Mar 16, 5:25 am, Rakesh <[email protected]> wrote:
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> >
> > Grails' sweet spot is creating a web application (rather than web
> > services) to do CRUD.
> >
> > Our platform is not about typical CRUD. We do not have a html
> > front-end for example. Or a relational db. We use Mongodb.
> >
>
> As someone else pointed out, there are plugins for grails for mongo -
> I believe the mongodb plugin is a bridge between GORM and mongo.
>
> > We are also concerned about the runtime performance of Grails as well
> > as how long it takes to startup in Jetty.
>
> Grails' startup time is longer than Java, and that depends somewhat on
> the size of your app.  I'm dealing with a project with 150+ domains,
> and a similar number of controllers.  There's a good 40+ seconds spent
> loading and decorating the classes with dynamic stuff and, from what I
> can tell, doing something with the classes with Spring.  I'm no Spring
> expert, but I was trying to do some tracing to determine why the app
> takes 1.5 minutes to start up, and much of the time was spent simply
> finding all the classes on disk, loading them up, and doing something
> with Spring to the classes (honestly don't remember exactly what it
> was).
>
> To that end, 'pure' Spring outside of Grails might be faster startup,
> but I'm not sure *how* much faster.  What are you startup times now,
> and why do they concern you so much?
>
> Are you using Grails 2 or Grails 1?
>
> Tomcat will probably be at least a bit faster, if only because it's
> the defacto standard in the Grails community, and I suspect the Tomcat/
> Grails combo has had a bit more love/attention than Jetty has in the
> past few years.
>
> You mention the startup time, then mention performance.  Have you run
> any performance tests on your current Grails setup as a benchmark?
>
> Benchmarks out there all show Groovy being slower than 'plain old
> java', which is to be expected, but in 'real world' tests, I've not
> found Grails to be a performance bottleneck in and of itself, and the
> usual suspects of disks and databases have tended to be the bigger
> issues.  Once those are addressed (better indexing, optimize queries,
> etc), then yes, just the app stack is left, but have you measured how
> much of a bottleneck Grails itself is in your situation?  What is it
> providing, and what are your performance goals?
>
>
> >
> > So can anyone suggest an alternative? Performance and load are
> > important. Being able to expose web services easily from Java is also
> > important.
> >
> > I was thinking using Tomcat + Spring, mainly because its a stack I
> > know and Tomcat can handle a huge load and I can pick and choose the
> > bits of Spring I need. I would consider something lighter weight but I
> > really don't want to muck around with web.xml files and the usual
> > standard java web app crap (which Grails does a fantastic job of
> > abstracting away).
> >
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