>In the same vein, what does Java have to do to retake the lead from C?  I
vote for unsigned types, (typesafe) unions
>and function pointers.

I like all those things too, but I wonder at what point does it make sense
to start over? It seems like it might be easier to make a new java-ish
language with all the goodies if you're not trying to keep up the pretense
that this is still the same language.
I'm not going to get on a soapbox for this, but it seems like it might make
more sense than trying to glue all this stuff onto the existing language.


On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Ricky Clarkson <[email protected]>wrote:

> The top 10 is annoying me, I used to be able to claim to know all of them,
> then Objective-C crops up which I have no use for.  Maybe I can get TIOBE
> to tweak it out of existence.
>
> As a half-joke, I was once writing a blog post about what Scala would need
> to do to leapfrog the language above it on the index, but didn't finish it
> before the index changed again..  It's currently awk, which is nigh-on
> unbeatable in its niche but I suppose it could be fun to add a DSL
> emulating it. :)
>
> In the same vein, what does Java have to do to retake the lead from C?  I
> vote for unsigned types, (typesafe) unions and function pointers.
>
> Ricky.
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>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 4:55 PM, [email protected] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Cedric, those divisions make sense in reality, but the only way I can get
>> them  from  the tiobe survey is to read the numbers in octal and group by
>>  order of magnitude.
>> :)
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Cédric Beust ♔" <[email protected]>
>> Date: Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:08 pm
>> Subject: [The Java Posse] C overtakes Java as the No.1 programming
>> language
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Cc: "Alex Turner" <[email protected]>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:00 PM, phil swenson <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> I think top 10 in Tiobe seems reasonable.  After that I am skeptical.
>>>
>>
>> Agreed. I think TIOBE allows us to get a rough feeling for
>>
>>    - Mainstream languages (top 5?)
>>    - Marginal languages (6-10?)
>>    - Niche languages (11+)
>>
>> Obviously, the cut off points between each category can move around.
>>
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