And a pretty negative perspective on at least some of those: http://java.dzone.com/articles/multi-platform-frameworks-0
Still, nothing conceptually against the concept of a multi-platform framework that holds water. They don't actually *have* to cater to the lowest common denominator, even though perhaps the current crop do just that. A winner in this space could be very successful. On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:43 AM, Sam Reid <[email protected]> wrote: > A few more cross platform solutions: > http://www.madewithmarmalade.com/marmalade > http://www.anscamobile.com/corona/ > http://www.adobe.com/products/air.html (mentioned again for completeness > in this message) > > Two solutions that use Java to cross compile to Android and iOS (but have > very large turnaround times and other significant drawbacks): > http://www.codenameone.com/ > http://xmlvm.org/overview/ > > One that uses Haxe (I haven't tested it): > http://www.haxenme.org/ > > Some that are more geared toward games (not necessarily good for your > application): > http://unity3d.com/ > http://www.unrealengine.com/ > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Robert Casto <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I see your point, but for a small developer it is a royal pain. I don't >> have time and money to develop 2 full applications. I would rather develop >> 1 application and have it run on both phones. This doubles my time and cost >> since I have to build and test on 2 platforms. My users don't really care >> about "iPhoneness" with the application. They want it to perform a certain >> task, and have it do that task really well. Documentation will get them >> past any ism's. >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Cédric Beust ♔ <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> They probably don't care at the moment because PhoneGap is marginal, but >>> if they start seeing an increasing number of applications written with >>> PhoneGap that look very similar on Android and iOS, I certainly wouldn't >>> exclude the possibility of them excluding apps written with it. It doesn't >>> have to be a complete reversal of their current stance, just banning a >>> specific tool that is eroding the proprietary monopoly they absolutely want >>> to maintain. >>> >>> -- >>> Cédric >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Robert Casto <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Agreed. I doubt they would flip flop again on it. >>>> >>>> On the web framework side, you have Sencha and jQueryMobile. PhoneGap >>>> will work with either. With Sencha you get a lot of hand holding and you >>>> are back to coding most everything instead of doing markup. >>>> >>>> I'm doing a mobile app using HTML5, CSS, and PhoneGap with a >>>> designer/developer. They are learning programming in college, but their >>>> design skills are top notch. I find that they can build the UI much faster >>>> than I. It lets me tackle the backed stuff supporting Ajax calls and I do >>>> the PhoneGap part on the phone. I like the separation of duties and it is >>>> easier to find someone to do the UI than it is PhoneGap and server side >>>> work. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 6:36 PM, phil swenson <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> I would be stunned if they did that. The reason they changed their >>>>> mind was all the push-back from developers. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2012/4/9 Cédric Beust ♔ <[email protected]>: >>>>> > I've heard good things about phonegap in general but I would be very >>>>> nervous >>>>> > writing my apps with it because Apple could once again change their >>>>> mind >>>>> > about accepting applications that were not written natively with >>>>> XCode. >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > Cédric >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 2:53 AM, Steven Siebert <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> This might be worth a look http://phonegap.com/ >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Probably should check out the capabilities and limitations of the >>>>> >> framework in regards to both your function and non-functional >>>>> requirements >>>>> >> you listed before going forward with design. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> S >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 5:48 AM, Rakesh <[email protected] >>>>> > >>>>> >> wrote: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Hi guys, >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> I know next to nothing about creating IOS/Android apps except that >>>>> >>> things change constantly so I wanted to get the group's advice on >>>>> >>> something I am considering developing soon. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> The requirements are initially quite modest: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> 1. Ability to look up ingredients and show related content. >>>>> >>> 2. Search for ingredients. >>>>> >>> 3. Be available off line. >>>>> >>> 4. Easy to develop across ISO and Android. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Not sure about the last one, do I have to create 2 projects and >>>>> manage >>>>> >>> them separately? I've heard there are third party applications >>>>> where >>>>> >>> you write once in Javascript(I think) and it cross compiles down to >>>>> >>> both OS's. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Is it practical to do both as a newbie to mobile development? >>>>> Should I >>>>> >>> just concentrate on Android (since I know Java)? >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Any advice appreciated!! >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Thanks >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Rakesh >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> -- >>>>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> >>> "The Java Posse" group. >>>>> >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> >>> [email protected]. >>>>> >>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -- >>>>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> >> "The Java Posse" group. >>>>> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> >> [email protected]. >>>>> >> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> > "The Java Posse" group. >>>>> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> > [email protected]. >>>>> > For more options, visit this group at >>>>> > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "The Java Posse" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Robert Casto >>>> www.robertcasto.com >>>> www.sellerstoolbox.com >>>> www.lakotaeastbands.org >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "The Java Posse" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "The Java Posse" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Robert Casto >> www.robertcasto.com >> www.sellerstoolbox.com >> www.lakotaeastbands.org >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "The Java Posse" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. 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