Closures were partying until 4am whilst objects were still a mere glint in their father's eye. Who are you calling "late"?
On 2 May 2012 17:51, phil swenson <[email protected]> wrote: > closures may lead to some sort of event construct, I'm not sure. > > Closures are at least 10 years late to the party. > > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Ricky Clarkson > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Right, it's an object. Java doesn't have methods as first class values. > > You'll find my name on the First Class Methods proposal from 2008 or > so. I > > agree but don't think adding a new kind of type and syntax just for > events > > is flexible enough. > > > > On May 2, 2012 12:54 PM, "phil swenson" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> click listener isn't a method > >> > >> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Ricky Clarkson < > [email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > sendButton.addMouseListener(clickListener); > >> > > >> > On May 2, 2012 11:51 AM, "phil swenson" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >> I'd like to know what does he mean with "no events". > >> >> > >> >> in Delphi you could do stuff like: > >> >> > >> >> sendButton.onClick = ClickHandlerMethod > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> I don't even want to think about what the equivalent is in Java. > >> >> > >> >> Basically, you need function pointers. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 2:30 AM, Fabrizio Giudici > >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > On Tue, 01 May 2012 19:41:57 +0200, Casper Bang > >> >> > <[email protected]> > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> On Tuesday, May 1, 2012 6:46:05 PM UTC+2, phil swenson wrote: > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> I remember being very disappointed when I first looked at Java > for > >> >> >>> writing desktop UIs. It was a huge step backwards from all the > >> >> >>> lessons learned from Delphi and VB in the 90s. No properties, no > >> >> >>> events, layout hell, overly complicated APIs. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> And yet, the hardcore Java developer will defend it vigorously. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > This is not true as most Java developers know that Swing is pretty > >> >> > old. > >> >> > BTW, > >> >> > getting back to the original Phil's statement, apart from the fact > >> >> > that > >> >> > you > >> >> > can have properties in the language with an annotation processor, > I'd > >> >> > like > >> >> > to know what does he mean with "no events". One of the problems of > >> >> > Swing > >> >> > is > >> >> > perhaps that there are too many (kinds of) events. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager > >> >> > Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. 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