Great link, Phil. This is a fantastic example of the evils of software 
patents.
I grew up with a brother with autism, and I can speak firsthand about the 
ridiculous prices of these standalone devices. Having affordable 
alternatives like this will help lots of families.



On Thursday, June 14, 2012 6:42:08 PM UTC-4, phil swenson wrote:
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>
> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/06/app-store-enigma-the-patent-holder-the-developer-and-the-voiceless-child/
>  
>
> Good example of the harm from software patents. 
>
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Cédric Beust ♔ <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 4:27 PM, phil swenson <[email protected]> 
> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> I think this bit of goodness is the exception, not the rule. 
> >> Look at all the patent trolling going on (Lodsys).  Look at the 
> >> monster patent portfolios being built (Google, Apple, Oracle, 
> >> Microsoft, Nortel consortium) to attack and defend. 
> >> 
> >> At the very least, patent durations are crazy long for software. 
> >> 14-20 years depending on circumstances. 
> > 
> > 
> > Definitely, that's one of the things I said in the previous discussions. 
> > 
> >> 
> >>  Amazon's 1 click patent was 
> >> filed in 1997, expires in 2017.  Is that sane in any way?  Firstly, 
> >> that it was awarded in the first place.  Secondly - 20 years in 
> >> software? 
> > 
> > 
> > How many times has Amazon made money off this patent from a big court 
> case? 
> > Never. How many web sites have a one click purchase link? A lot. 
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Oh and I love the latest "tweak" to the patent system.  First to file 
> >> instead of First to Invent? 
> >> 
> >> 
> http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-patent-system-to-transform-from-first-to-invent-to-first-to-file-avi-biopharma-and-xoma-look-to-benefit-2012-05-04
>  
> >> 
> >> Patent system rewards the big and the rich, not the independents. 
> > 
> > 
> > Many startups get sold for a lot of money in part thanks to their patent 
> > portfolios, so it's not just for the big and rich. I would argue that 
> > without patents, you would see a lot less startups being acquired and a 
> > company like TiVo might never had emerged and be successful despite its 
> > original and disrupting ideas. 
> > 
> > 
> >> 
> >>  The 
> >> rich/big co's are the only ones who have the money to file and defend. 
> >> 
> >> It's a fact that almost every software company violates many patents. 
> >> You just don't know it because you'd have to spend tons of time 
> >> researching them + there are tons of ridiculous/obvious patents that 
> >> you can't help but violate + the act of researching patents makes you 
> >> more liable because you "know" about breaking them. 
> > 
> > 
> > Exactly, all this dark matter ("you don't know how many patents you 
> > violate", "look at the portfolio that big companies are amassing", "look 
> at 
> > all these trash patents getting filed") says *nothing* about the system. 
> > 
> > Here are a few criteria by which to measure how well the system works: 
> > 
> > How much innovation is happening in the US (a lot). 
> > How much innovation is happening in countries that have none of these 
> laws 
> > such as China (none). 
> > How many of these patents actually end up in court (hardly any). 
> > How many of these patents that actually land in court end up with an 
> > outrageous verdict (can't even think of one). 
> > 
> > Anyway, we've had this discussion here many, many times, no point in 
> > rehashing it. 
> > 
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