>Most people support Samsung because either they don't like US patent
system or they mistakenly think Samsung = Android.

I think it's reasonable to suppose that Apple is using or wants to use
Samsung as a proxy for Google. If the violations are obvious, then it's a
good way to get a judgement on record, to grease the slippery slope a
little. If you're Apple, you don't want to charge up against google
straight off, you want to build up a set of rulings that you can point to
when you do go after them.

On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Oscar Hsieh <[email protected]> wrote:

> Patent 12/363,325(Notification of mobile device event) is not yet
> approved.
>
> Most people support Samsung because either they don't like US patent
> system or they mistakenly think Samsung = Android.
> Most tech blogs share little sympathy to Samsung as it is pretty obvious
> that Samsung deliberately copied Apple in the early days.
> I dont want to get into the political fight as some people here are more
> biased than even those commenters on theverge.
>
> People should look at this more positively.  Samsung's Galaxy S3 and Note
> are a good example that Samsung's senior management team should trust their
> engineers' ability to design great devices.
>
> By the way, if you are interested there is a good article on theVerge
> about Apple's pinch and zoom patent and how Google walk around it
> http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/30/3279628/apple-pinch-to-zoom-patent-myth
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 1:19 PM, phil swenson <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> First, let me say I think software patents should be abolished or at the
>> very least the patent terms should be much shorter given the fast moving
>> nature of the software business.
>>
>> Dick mentioned that Apple copied Xerox Parc and seemed to indicate it was
>> the same thing as Samsung copying Apple.  I just saw this link the other
>> day on the subject:
>> http://obamapacman.com/2010/03/myth-copyright-theft-apple-stole-gui-from-xerox-parc-alto/
>> Basically, Apple got permission from Xerox to use the technology and Xerox
>> was compensated.
>>
>> IMO Samsung was plain stupid.  I don't feel bad for them as given the
>> current laws, they asked for this - they copied so much that that they made
>> it easy for the jury.  I don't know how much of the copying images made
>> it's way to the trial, but they have copied everything from the iPhone 3GS
>> metal bezel to the iPhone's tiny block power supply to the box the phone
>> comes in.
>>
>> Search google images for "samsung copying apple" and you can see:
>>
>> http://www.phonedog.com/2012/08/12/do-you-think-samsung-copied-apple/
>>
>> http://obamapacman.com/2011/09/samsung-samsung-galaxy-s-2-charger-copied-iphone/
>>
>> http://cdn.mactrast.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Samsung-Apple-Cable-Copy.jpg
>>
>> http://whatblag.com/2011/04/18/apple-suing-samsung-did-the-nexus-s-copy-the-iphone/
>> http://www.bgr.com/2012/08/06/apple-samsung-patent-lawsuit-icons/
>>
>> It's pretty pathetic.
>>
>> BTW:  Dick did make a good point on Apple copying the Android
>> Notifications.  I don't know if it's illegal though (is that patented?)
>>
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