Thank you for following the guidelines.

-----Original Message----- From: Humberto Rodriguez
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 1:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] memo for the group

Yes Steve, I hear both of those work well too, I am happy now with
Googlegroups, have no bounces other than appropriate ones and have gotten
used to  directly adding or deleting subscribers without great difficulty.

It is a shame that current email practices, convoluted configurations and
unfair blacklists prevent us from using Mailman to manage lists on our own
domains, a solution both elegant and easy for us.

Regards,

Humberto


-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 9:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] memo for the group

Umberto,

Right, I used to be on GoogleGroups.  The group I was referring to was on a
mailman server though, and GoogleMail kept dropping users on an
almost-weekly basis.

But, I got tired of having to use the Jaws cursor to click certain things in

the Googlegroups setup a few years ago and have since moved all my groups
either to Freelists or Groups.io.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Humberto Rodriguez" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] memo for the group


Steve,

That no longer happens with googlegroups.com and my experience is good
since
I change to it over a year ago.  I run a fair size list and I had it as
you
do, in my domain eiberoamerica.com using Mailman, a tool easy for us Jaws
users to manage, but the number and frequency of bounces from Gmail and
other providers finally made me try Googlegroups.  It is a little harder
to
manage, but after you become familiar with it, it isn't too bad.  It lets
you direct-add subscribers in chunks of 10, it used to have a captcha, but
now it is only a question that you must check saying "I am not a robot"
and
it also lets you easily invite people, in addition to the normal
procedures
to subscribe and unsubscribe by email.  One difference is the use of the
plus sign instead of slash, for instance, to subscribe to my list (which
is
in Spanish, thus not recommended for those that do not read the language),
is:

[email protected]

Regards,

Humberto

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 4:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] memo for the group

Miriam,

I am one of the co-owners of the group that moved.  You are incorrect
about
it not having problems with Gmail; that's the main reason Buddy and I
moved
it.  It kept bouncing and disabling about eighty gmail users at a time;
about three times in the final thirty days that the group existed using a
mailman server.

Steve
----- Original Message ----- From: "Miriam Vieni" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] memo for the group


I just wanted to mention that the email list that Tom mentioned, which had
difficulties for a prolonged period of time, did not have problems with
people who had Gmail accounts. However, it, too, had its own server and
there were several providers, including mine, who blocked its messages as
spam. The problem was solved by moving the list to io Groups.

Miriam



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