Certainly, remembering this makes no sense to users. For script developers, however, this kind of remembers may be useful, for example, to keep track on how INSERT+V will perform in different JAWS versions due to internal changes this command has in these years, first in JAWS 9 for changing the long list box of the Adjust JAWS Verbosity dialog to a more organized tree view on Adjust JAWS Options in JAWS 9, and then for introducing Quick Settings and their persistence level switching on the Fly since version 13.
2017-08-01 0:40 GMT-03:00 Mike B. <[email protected]>: > Hi David, > > It's not a matter of being right or wrong, but more of a matter of who the > hell needs to remember that kind of crap! LOL That's like asking, in > which > version of Jaws did they change the keystroke for virtualizing the screen! > LOL > Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! > Sent from my iBarstool. > Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the > end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David Ferrin > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 7:08 PM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing forms mode behavior on selected > web-sites > > > So it would seem that we were both wrong, well now it has been solved. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike B. > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 8:45 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing forms mode behavior on selected > web-sites > > Howdy Mr. Esteemed Leader, > > Archived 12/04/2013 > Learn how to use Flexible Web, first introduced in JAWS 14. Flexible Web > enables you to take more control of Web pages by allowing you to quickly > find > the content you are looking for, as well as hide content that interrupts > the > reading experience. This webinar demonstrates how to start and customize > Flexible Web... > > Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! > Sent from my iBarstool. > Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the > end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David Ferrin > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 5:35 PM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing forms mode behavior on selected > web-sites > > > I do not believe so, never the less let's just say it has been around for a > few years already. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fernando Gregoire > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 7:38 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing forms mode behavior on selected > web-sites > > Was not in 15 instead? > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of David Ferrin > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 5:52 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing forms mode behavior on selected > web-sites > > If memory serves, version 13. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike B. > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 3:30 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing forms mode behavior on selected > web-sites > > Hi Mike, > > I don't know what version of Jaws Flexible Web started with, but it's > definitely weird that it doesn't appear in the Jaws Manager, Insert + F2. > When you tried to open Flexible Web, did you get the following message? > > Flexible Web > You must enable the Flexible Web feature before continuing. Would you like > to enable Flexible Web? > Yes No > > If you need to enable Flexible Web, it's in Settings Center default all > applications. > Use this setting to enable or disable the Flexible Web feature. You can > access Flexible Web from Internet Explorer or Firefox by pressing > INSERT+SPACEBAR, X. This check box is selected by default. This setting > INSERT+is > only available in the JAWS default settings (CTRL+SHIFT+D). > > > Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! > Sent from my iBarstool. > Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the > end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike Mote > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 11:47 AM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing forms mode behavior on selected > web-sites > > > Hi Mike! I am not able to use flexible web for some reason. When I press > the Insert plus spacebar and then the letter X, nothing happens. I have > also tried to pull it up by using the Insert plus F2 option, but nothing > happens. Strange! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Mike B. > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 1:28 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing forms mode behavior on selected > web-sites > > Hi Mike, > > Check this out: > Flexible Web > Frequently, you will encounter Web pages that contain a lot of excess > content which can make it difficult to locate the actual content you want, > or interupts the flow > > when reading. For instance, many sites contain Google ad frames. These can > be troublesome for JAWS users as they disrupt the reading order of > surrounding content. > > Flexible Web enables you to take more control of Web pages by allowing you > to quickly find the content you are looking for, as well as hide content > that interrupts the > > reading experience. You can hide sections of content, such as Google ad > frames or other types of unnecessary content, for a smoother reading > experience. In addition, > > you could have JAWS begin reading at a level one heading, or ARIA main > region, as these may contain the most interesting content. > > To use Flexible Web, open a Web page you want to customize in Internet > Explorer or Firefox. Then, move the Virtual PC Cursor to the page element > you want to hide, or > > from where you want to start reading when the page first loads. Activate > the > Flexible Web wizard by pressing the layered keystroke INSERT+SPACEBAR, X. > Alternatively, > > press INSERT+F2 to open the Run JAWS Manager dialog box, then choose > Flexible Web. > > Through several easy-to-follow steps, The Flexible Web wizard that opens > provides you with two options: hide, or start reading at the selected > element. The wizard then > > guides you through the process of creating a temporary customization by > giving you various choices about the selected element and how you want to > hide it or from where > > exactly to start reading. Once the customization has been made, it is > immediately applied to the page. For instance, if you choose to hide all > frames containing > > advertisements, you will not see any advertisements when navigating the > page > after making this temporary customization. > > If you are not happy with how a customization is working, you can open the > Flexible Web wizard to undo the last customization you made. When you > return > to the page, > > you can choose a different element or the same one, then reactivate the > Flexible Web wizard to retry the customization again perhaps with different > criteria. For > > example, in the case of hiding those advertisement frames mentioned > earlier, > you probably want to hide all of them, not just the first one on the page. > The wizard will > > provide you with choices about whether to hide just the first one or all of > them. > > You can create as many customizations for a page as you want. Once you have > created one or more customizations, you can save them as a rule, which is > applied every > > time you load the particular page or site. To indicate that a rule has been > applied to a page, JAWS plays a sound after the page loads. Rules can be > applied to the > > current Web page, entire Web site, or globally for all Web sites. > Otherwise, > customizations are only temporary and are lost as soon as you navigate away > from the > > current Web page or close the browser. If you have made temporary > customizations and you attempt to navigate to another page or close the > browser, a dialog box opens > > asking if you want to save your customizations as a rule. > > Creating Customizations and Rules > Following is an example of a situation where you might use Flexible Web to > improve the reading experience on a Web page. > > You frequently visit a news Web site where you would like to have JAWS > start > reading at the beginning of the article, which is the first level one > heading on the page. > > Between the heading and the beginning of the text is an annoying frame > called Social containing links to various social Web sites that you do not > want to hear or read. > > You would first create two temporary customizations that start reading at > the first level 1 heading and hide all frames named Social. You would then > save these as a > > rule which will be applied each time you load a page from this Web site. > > Creating Temporary Customizations > To customize this site so JAWS starts reading at the first level one > heading > and ignores the Social frame, do the following: > > Move the Virtual PC Cursor to the first level one heading which contains > the > title of the article and press INSERT+SPACEBAR, X to open the Flexible Web > wizard. By > > default, the Create new customization radio button is selected. > Choose Next and you are prompted with the type of customization you want to > create. Select Start reading at an element, then choose Next. > You are now asked what element you want to customize. The first item in the > list is the level one heading containing the article title. Since this is > the element where > > you want JAWS to start reading, choose Next. > In the list box, select a customization. In this case, select the option > Start reading at heading 1, 1 from the top. This is because you want this > customization to > > work for every article on the site, not just the current one. > Choose Finish and you are returned to the page. > Move the Virtual PC Cursor to the frame called Social and press > INSERT+SPACEBAR, X to open the Flexible Web wizard again. Since a > customization has already been > > created, there are now several radio buttons that have become available, > including Retry, Undo, and Save temporary customizations as a rule. > However, > > the default radio > > button is still Create a new customization, so choose Next. > Select Hide an element, then choose Next. > From the list of elements you can customize, choose the Social frame, then > choose Next. > In the list of possible choices for how to hide the selected element, > select > > Hide all frames named Social. This hides all frames with the name Social no > matter where > > they appear on the page. > Choose Finish to return to the page. As you navigate the page, the virtual > buffer will no longer show the Social frame between the title of the > article > > and its text. > Note: Customizations only apply for the current browser window or tab. This > allows you to have the same page open in two browser windows at the same > time so you can > > try customizations on one page, while leaving the other one unchanged. > > Retrying a Customization > If you are not completely satisfied with how a customization is working, > you > > can undo the customization and try creating it again. For instance, you may > have created > > the customization using the wrong element. > > To retry a customization, do the following: > > Move the Virtual PC cursor to the element on the page you want to customize > and press INSERT+SPACEBAR, X to open the Flexible Web wizard. > Select the Retry radio button and choose Next. > The most recent customization you made is deleted. Follow the steps in the > wizard to create a new customization. > If you want to delete the last customization you made without creating a > new > > one, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, X to open the Flexible Web wizard and choose > the > > Undo radio > > button. Select Finish to remove the customization and return to the Web > page. > > Saving One or More Temporary Customizations as a Rule > Currently,the customizations you made in this example are temporary. To > save > > them as a permenant rule, do the following: > > Press INSERT+SPACEBAR, X to open the Flexible Web wizard. Select the Save > temporary customizations as a rule radio button, then choose Next. > In the Rule name edit field, enter a name for the rule, for example, "News > Article Web Site". > Press TAB to move to the checkable list of customizations that will be > included in the rule. By default, all customizations are selected. You can > exclude a > > customization from the rule by pressing the SPACEBAR to clear its check > mark. > Press TAB to move to the How would you like this rule to apply combo box. > The available choices are Globally, To the current site, or To the current > page. The default > > option is To the current site. If you want to apply the rule to the current > page (such as the home page of a site), or globally, so it applies to all > sites, move up or > > down through the combo box to select the option you want. In our example, > we > > will choose the default so that the rule is applied to any page within the > current site. > Choose Finish to create the new rule. > Now, when ever you visit any page on this site, JAWS will begin reading at > the first level 1 heading and all frames named Social will not appear in > the > > virtual view. > > Rules are browser specific. This means that if you save rules for a page in > Internet Explorer then access the same page in Firefox, the rules you > created will not > > work. You will need to create the rule again in Firefox. > > Managing Rules > You can manage rules by opening the Flexible Web wizard and choosing View > and change where rules apply. In the dialog box that opens, you can rename, > delete, > > enable,disable, or move existing rules from one page or site to another > without having to re-create the entire rule. > > The Flexible Web viewer dialog box contains a tree view and a checkable > list > > view. The tree view lists the sites and pages for which you have saved > Flexible Web rules. > > The top level is Global, level one is Current site, and level two is > Current > > page. The list view shows all rules. Every rule has a check mark next to > it. > > If a rule is > > supposed to be executed for a current location in the tree view, the rule > is > > checked, otherwise it is unchecked. > > For example, let's say that you have created three different rules: "Rule > A" > > to be applied globally for all sites, "Rule B" for google.com, and "Rule > C" > for a specific > > page on cnn.com. If Global is selected in the tree, you will find that > only > "Rule A" will be checked in the list of rules, which means that no matter > how many saved > > rules there are, only "Rule A" will run on every single page. > > If the currently selected item in the tree is google.com, then both "Rule > A" > > and "Rule B" will be checked. "Rule A" is checked for google.com because > it > is supposed to > > run on all sites and "Rule B" is checked, because it was saved specifically > for google.com. "Rule C" is not checked because it was saved for one of > the > pages on > > cnn.com and therefore does not apply to google.com. > > From the list of rules, you can enable or disable rules as well as delete, > rename, or view properties of the selected rule. > > Enabling or Disabling a Rule > To enable or disable a rule for a site or page, do the following: > > From the browser where you have created Flexible Web rules, press > INSERT+SPACEBAR, X to open the Flexible Web wizard. > Choose the View and change where rules apply radio button. > Move to the Finish button and press ENTER. This closes the wizard and opens > a viewer that contains a treeview. Its root is Global, its level 1 branch > is > > Current site, > > and its level 2 branch is Current page. The default location when the > Viewer > > opens is Global. > Navigate the tree, opening the Current Site or Current page branch as > desired. Each branch will include the name of the site or page of a site. > From the desired site or page whose rules you want to examine, press TAB to > move to the next control. This is a checkable list view of rules. If the > currently selected > > rule is being applied to the current page or site, it will be checked. > Otherwise, any rules that appear in the list will be unchecked. > If the rule is currently checked - that is, it is applied to the current > page, site, or globally, and you just want to disable it without deleting > it, then uncheck the > > rule by pressing SPACEBAR. Otherwise, if the rule is unchecked - that is, > it > > is not applied to the current page or site, but you do wish to apply it, > then check it by > > pressing SPACEBAR. > When you are finished, press TAB to move to the Close button and press > ENTER. > Deleting a Rule > To delete a rule, do the following: > > From the browser where you have created Flexible Web rules, press > INSERT+SPACEBAR, X to open the Flexible Web wizard. > Choose the View and change where rules apply radio button and press ENTER. > When the Flexible Web viewer opens, press TAB to move to the list of rules. > Navigate to the rule you want to delete and press the DELETE Key. > Alternatively, press the APPLICATIONS Key to open the context menu and > choose Delete. When asked if > > you want to continue, choose Yes to delete the rule, or No to cancel the > deletion. > Caution: If you choose Yes, the rule will be deleted and you will have to > recreate it in order to use it again. This also means that if there were > multiple sites or > > pages that were using this rule, they will no longer run it as well. If you > need to temporarily stop a rule from being applied for a specific page or > site, simply > > clear its check mark instead of deleting it. You can then select it again > when you need it. > > When you are finished, press TAB to move to the Close button and press > ENTER. > Renaming a Rule > To rename a rule, do the following: > > From the browser where you have created Flexible Web rules, press > INSERT+SPACEBAR, X to open the Flexible Web wizard. > Choose the View and change where rules apply radio button and press ENTER. > When the Flexible Web viewer opens, press TAB to move to the list of rules. > Navigate to the rule you want to rename and press F2 to rename the rule. > Alternatively, you can press the APPLICATIONS Key to open the context menu > and choose Rename. > > This opens a dialog box where you can edit the name of the rule similar to > renaming a file in Windows Explorer. > Edit the rule name then press ENTER to confirm the change or ESC to cancel. > When you are finished, press TAB to move to the Close button and press > ENTER. > Viewing the Customizations in a Rule > To view the list of customizations that are included in a rule, do the > following: > > From the browser where you have created Flexible Web rules, press > INSERT+SPACEBAR, X to open the Flexible Web wizard. > Choose the View and change where rules apply radio button and press ENTER. > When the Flexible Web viewer opens, press TAB to move to the list of rules. > Navigate to the rule you want to view, then press the APPLICATIONS Key to > open the context menu and choose Properties. > When the Properties dialog box opens, you are on a read-only control that > shows the name of the current rule whose settings you wish to examine. For > example, you may > > have set several temporary customizations as a single rule. Therefore, the > properties for the rule will include the various customizations made for > that rule. Press > > TAB to move to the properties list and use the ARROW keys to navigate the > list of properties associated with the rule. > When you are done examining the properties of the current rule, press TAB > to > > move to the Close button and press ENTER to return to the viewer. Select > the > > Close button > > once more to exit the viewer and return to the browser. > Using Other JAWS Features on a Web Page Where Flexible Web Rules are > Applied > Where applicable, other JAWS features such as PlaceMarkers, Custom Page > Summary, and Personalized Settings will continue to be in effect for a page > where Flexible Web > > rules have been applied to it. This depends on whether a setting applied as > a Flexible Web rule conflicts with a setting that is not a Flexible Web > rule. For example, > > if you have created a PlaceMarker for a page that is located on an element > that has now been hidden because a Flexible Web rule has been applied to > that page, the > > PlaceMarker will not be found when you attempt to move to it. > > For pages that automatically update information frequently, any Flexible > Web > > rules applied will still be in effect as the page updates. Additionally, if > a page > > automatically sets focus to a control, such as an edit field for searching, > this takes precedence over any rules that start reading at a specific > element. > > When selecting and copying text from a Web page where Flexible Web rules > have been applied, if Select and Copy Full Content Using Onscreen Highlight > is selected in > > Quick Settings, all content is copied, including any hidden content that > was > > included in the selection. If you do not want to include any hidden content > when > > selecting, choose the Select and Copy from Virtual Cursor option. > > Turning Off Flexible Web > Flexible Web is on by default. To turn it off so rules are not applied when > pages load, do the following: > > Press INSERT+F2, and select Settings Center. > Press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the JAWS default settings. > In the Search edit box, type "Flexible Web" without the quotes. > Press DOWN ARROW to move to Flexible Web in the filtered search results in > the tree view. > Next, press SPACEBAR to enable or disable Flexible Web. > > Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! > Sent from my iBarstool. > Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the > end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike Mote > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 8:12 AM > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing forms mode behavior on selected web-sites > > > Good morning all! > > I have a web site where I would prefer to have forms mode set to manual, > and > not auto. Can you do this for individual web-sites within JAWS? For now, > I'm changing it in the quick settings, but I was wondering if there is a > better way. Many thanks! > > > > > > > > Mike Mote > > Technology Accessibility Developer, Human Resources > > IFB Solutions > > Our Vision is Working - see more at <http://www.ifbsolutions.org/> > www.ifbsolutions.org > > Work Phone (336) 245-5650 > > Mobile Phone (336) 793-6006 > > Shipping: 7730 North Point Dr > > Winston-Salem, NC 27106 > > > > *Large font facilitates reading for people with low vision > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > --- > El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electrónico en > busca > de virus. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
