Hi.

I tend to agree. I've made a decision myself to stay away from HP from now on. I might go back on that if I see some really well built machine some time in my future but if the two HP's I have right now are any indication they appear to be making painstaking effort to introduce failure points in order to keep people needing to buy new models. Just my own opinion, but I've worn out hinges on two completely different hp models and I'm about tired of that bs. Now I'm trying out these transformmer 2 in 1 models that have the screen can flip all the way around backwards upside down against the bottom of the computer so you can turn it over and have screen up, keyboard down and use it like a big tablet. I'm not particularly concerned about using it like a tablet but I think this capability necessitates tougher hinges and I'm rather interested to put that to the test. So far so good my Lenovo Yoga 2 pro's hinges are holding up decenntly. They're a little more wobbly than they were when I first bought it, but there are no cracks, which was what went wrong with both of my HP's.


Those HP's are both aluminum machines, and their hinges are made out of plastic. Now ask me why I think they intentionally made a failure point. I mean, come on, plastic hinge housings on an otherwise all aluminum computer! Oh, sure, metal parts inside, but they pull on the plastic that houses them every time you move the lid a bit, so when the plastic breaks, the metal doesn't have anything to hold to.


In any event, one of my first reassurances now when computer shopping has to do with the hinge build quality. The ones that go all the way across like tosheba likes to do, and mac laptops, is nice though a friend on this list has one made that way and it's cracked. Thecold metal ones like the flip odels have is nice too, and I suspect the so called watchband hinge lenovo yoga 900 and yoga 910 have is excellent.



Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We 
make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com";

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On 9/22/2017 7:56 AM, cheez wrote:
I have the latest version of JAWS.  But I'm beginning to think a friend of mine was correct when I told him I was getting a new HP laptop.
he said, "I don't like HP.  They suck."

Vince

----- Original Message ----- From: "David Pearson" <dpears...@wi.rr.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer


My computer started to take a long time to start up after I went from window eyes and installed Jaws 18.

At 10:41 PM 9/21/2017, you wrote:
Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use." Drives me nuts!

Vince

----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Richardson" <laurak...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer


Hello,



Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..



Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 seconds
and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.



Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said "Jaws home
use" and I was ready to go.



I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never happened.
Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be
concerned about?  Thanks for any input.



Laura





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