Yes, I've been reading about that on one of the tech blogs I follow. This is a new, mainstream browser; would be nice if it worked well with JAWS, but it seems (given how much work FS has to do with the other mainstream browser/developers) unlikely. I wonder, have you (or anyone else) had experience with Vivaldi?
-----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett Sent: October 26, 2017 5:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WebIE web browser, Podcatcher, Calendar, was RE: Firefox Quantum is coming, and it doesn't like screen-readers There is Vivaldi also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivaldi_(web_browser) On 10/26/2017 1:16 PM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote: > Hello Casey: > > Just to update you, when I mentioned WebIE to you I thought it prudent > to go try it out with Windows 10 Fall Creator, so I went to: > > http://www.webbie.org.uk > > Downloaded and installed the suite WebbIE 4, which includes several > programs in addition to the WebIE web browser. I found that WebIE > works well with the newest Windows, also the other two excellent programs I tried: > Podcatcher and Calendar, both totally accessible and easy to use. > > We should all be grateful to Dr. Alasdair King for these free programs. > > HTH, > > Humberto > > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of JM Casey > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 10:32 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox Quantum is coming, and it doesn't > like screen-readers > > Hello, humberto. > > That was a very nice post; cheers. I do understand the cyclical, or, > as you say, balance, you are speaking of. I wasn't using JAWS in 1989 > because at that time I was a youngster, and had an Apple 2 E computer. > I do remember getting my first MSDOS computer, a Toshiba laptop with a > Navigator serial braille display. I loved that thing, but by then > Windows 3.1 was already the up and coming thing and more and more I > got the "this program requires Microsoft Windows" message, and yes, > that was an equally frustrating experience. My first uses of the Internet were via telnet and a Linux shell. > I have not heard of Webie until now, but I sure remember Links, the > text-based web browser that I used through the shell. If that thing > works in windows 7, it should probably function on my Win 10 machine; > maybe I will give it a try. I wonder how good the security is though. > And of course, there's still Chrome, which I have and may as well get > used to using. It's probably going to become the nicest mainstream > browser for JAWS users in a short time. So yes, it's not all doom and > gloom. Thanks for the positive outlook. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Humberto Rodriguez > Sent: October 25, 2017 9:12 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox Quantum is coming, and it doesn't > like screen-readers > > Hello young Casey: > > I am more than twice your age, began using computers with IBM DOS and > MS DOS, also Pick OS, the precursor of SQL, began using JAWS in 1989 > with its DOS 1.0 version, when through the horrible beginning of > Windows when it was totally inaccessible to us (until version 3.1), > remember when we thought a > 300 BAUD modem and the IBM AT (286) were super fast, the opening of > the Internet with Windows 95 but not for us until Arkenstone shared > with Henter-Joyce the way to access the OSM and HJ came out with JFW, > many subsequent terrifying changes; it is normal to resist them and > now that they seem to proliferate as a geometric progression, it is > becoming much more difficult to catch up. > > It is an act of balance, sometimes things become more difficult for a > while, but eventually somebody figures out a solution, there are many > smart people out there. Just think where would we be if Ted Henter > had not lost his eyesight. > > Have patience, things will work out, granted, not as fast as we would > like, but they will nevertheless. > > Have you heard of a text-based browser called WebIE? It was written by Dr. > Alasdair King from England , years ago and was totally accessible, > very fast. I have not tried it with Windows 10, but used to work with > Windows 7, so it probably works with Windows 10 as well. You might > give it a tryand see. > > He has other excellent programs, notable Accessible Potcatcher, all free. > > Regards, > > Humberto > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of JM Casey > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 5:57 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox Quantum is coming, and it doesn't like > screen-readers > > So.. > > Has anyone Hey folks. Haven't seen any discussion about this yet. On > another list, someone posted an article about this, which I cannot > seem to find the URL for, but if people are interested I guess I could > cross-post it. In > brief: Firefox Quantum has a new "multiprocessing" approach that means > it will be twice as fast for everyone else, but it will not play > nicely with JAWS or other screen-readers. We're essentially at the > same stage now (or will be come November) as we are with Edge, in that > it's going to be a work in progress for quite some time, and from what > I've read, it may be difficult to continue implementing the virtual > buffer concept. This is, to me, annoying to say the least, as I use > Firefox all the time and have been really happy with it up til now. I > also think the virutal buffer a great innovation for web browsing and > would hate to give it up, unless a better alternative was developed. > > > > Has anyone thoughts on this? I used to laugh at "old people" (in > quotes there, in case you have punctuation set to "some" or "none") > who moaned about things changing too fast and that they couldn't keep > up. Now, at 37, I'm feeling the bite. I'm happy to no longer be using > Windows XP, yet it seems like every month (since getting Windows 10 > and JAWS 18 in particular), there's some new thing I have to fix that > wasn't broken before; some time I have to spend figuring a workaround > to one thing or another, or a doomful press release about how I won't > be able to use this-or-that once a certain update happens. > > > > Fortunately, for us Firefox users, I guess we can still install the > ESR (Extended Support Release) of the browser, and get security > updates, without a Quantum upgrade, until sometime in 2018. Guess I'll be doing that, then! > > > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Sincerely: Randy Barnett Owner of Soundtique. Grants Pass, Or. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
