Yes, I've been reading about that on one of the tech blogs I follow. This is
a new, mainstream browser; would be nice if it worked well with JAWS, but it
seems (given how much work FS has to do with the other mainstream
browser/developers) unlikely. I wonder, have you (or anyone else) had
experience with Vivaldi?
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: October 26, 2017 5:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WebIE web browser, Podcatcher, Calendar, was RE:
Firefox Quantum is coming, and it doesn't like screen-readers
There is Vivaldi also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivaldi_(web_browser)
On 10/26/2017 1:16 PM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote:
Hello Casey:
Just to update you, when I mentioned WebIE to you I thought it prudent
to go try it out with Windows 10 Fall Creator, so I went to:
http://www.webbie.org.uk
Downloaded and installed the suite WebbIE 4, which includes several
programs in addition to the WebIE web browser. I found that WebIE
works well with the newest Windows, also the other two excellent programs
I tried:
Podcatcher and Calendar, both totally accessible and easy to use.
We should all be grateful to Dr. Alasdair King for these free programs.
HTH,
Humberto
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On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 10:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox Quantum is coming, and it doesn't
like screen-readers
Hello, humberto.
That was a very nice post; cheers. I do understand the cyclical, or,
as you say, balance, you are speaking of. I wasn't using JAWS in 1989
because at that time I was a youngster, and had an Apple 2 E computer.
I do remember getting my first MSDOS computer, a Toshiba laptop with a
Navigator serial braille display. I loved that thing, but by then
Windows 3.1 was already the up and coming thing and more and more I
got the "this program requires Microsoft Windows" message, and yes,
that was an equally frustrating experience. My first uses of the Internet
were via telnet and a Linux shell.
I have not heard of Webie until now, but I sure remember Links, the
text-based web browser that I used through the shell. If that thing
works in windows 7, it should probably function on my Win 10 machine;
maybe I will give it a try. I wonder how good the security is though.
And of course, there's still Chrome, which I have and may as well get
used to using. It's probably going to become the nicest mainstream
browser for JAWS users in a short time. So yes, it's not all doom and
gloom. Thanks for the positive outlook.
-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Humberto Rodriguez
Sent: October 25, 2017 9:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox Quantum is coming, and it doesn't
like screen-readers
Hello young Casey:
I am more than twice your age, began using computers with IBM DOS and
MS DOS, also Pick OS, the precursor of SQL, began using JAWS in 1989
with its DOS 1.0 version, when through the horrible beginning of
Windows when it was totally inaccessible to us (until version 3.1),
remember when we thought a
300 BAUD modem and the IBM AT (286) were super fast, the opening of
the Internet with Windows 95 but not for us until Arkenstone shared
with Henter-Joyce the way to access the OSM and HJ came out with JFW,
many subsequent terrifying changes; it is normal to resist them and
now that they seem to proliferate as a geometric progression, it is
becoming much more difficult to catch up.
It is an act of balance, sometimes things become more difficult for a
while, but eventually somebody figures out a solution, there are many
smart people out there. Just think where would we be if Ted Henter
had not lost his eyesight.
Have patience, things will work out, granted, not as fast as we would
like, but they will nevertheless.
Have you heard of a text-based browser called WebIE? It was written by
Dr.
Alasdair King from England , years ago and was totally accessible,
very fast. I have not tried it with Windows 10, but used to work with
Windows 7, so it probably works with Windows 10 as well. You might
give it a tryand see.
He has other excellent programs, notable Accessible Potcatcher, all free.
Regards,
Humberto
-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 5:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox Quantum is coming, and it doesn't like
screen-readers
So..
Has anyone Hey folks. Haven't seen any discussion about this yet. On
another list, someone posted an article about this, which I cannot
seem to find the URL for, but if people are interested I guess I could
cross-post it. In
brief: Firefox Quantum has a new "multiprocessing" approach that means
it will be twice as fast for everyone else, but it will not play
nicely with JAWS or other screen-readers. We're essentially at the
same stage now (or will be come November) as we are with Edge, in that
it's going to be a work in progress for quite some time, and from what
I've read, it may be difficult to continue implementing the virtual
buffer concept. This is, to me, annoying to say the least, as I use
Firefox all the time and have been really happy with it up til now. I
also think the virutal buffer a great innovation for web browsing and
would hate to give it up, unless a better alternative was developed.
Has anyone thoughts on this? I used to laugh at "old people" (in
quotes there, in case you have punctuation set to "some" or "none")
who moaned about things changing too fast and that they couldn't keep
up. Now, at 37, I'm feeling the bite. I'm happy to no longer be using
Windows XP, yet it seems like every month (since getting Windows 10
and JAWS 18 in particular), there's some new thing I have to fix that
wasn't broken before; some time I have to spend figuring a workaround
to one thing or another, or a doomful press release about how I won't
be able to use this-or-that once a certain update happens.
Fortunately, for us Firefox users, I guess we can still install the
ESR (Extended Support Release) of the browser, and get security
updates, without a Quantum upgrade, until sometime in 2018. Guess I'll be
doing that, then!
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