The information I gave was through very limited HTML knowledge. I think I may have said something wrong. Ignore the bit from my email about JAWS not using standard names for ARIA markup as I think this is wrong with reference to the Word document.
On 1/9/18, JM Casey <[email protected]> wrote: > That's great. Should help us out a lot. Thank you. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Fernando Gregoire > Sent: January 8, 2018 10:34 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What, exactly, is a "region" (html navigation) > > In addition to information given by Roger, you can find useful to see the > JAWS Support for ARIA document, by Freedom Scientific, which explains not > only compatibility level between JAWS and different browsers with specific > ARIA tags, but also aspects in which for some reason JAWS deviates formally > from the standards. You can find this document in Word format here: > http://www.freedomscientific.com/Content/Documents/Other/JAWS-ARIA-Support.doc > > Hope it helps! > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of JM Casey > Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 7:09 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What, exactly, is a "region" (html navigation) > > Thank you very much, Roger. No need to apologise; this was exactly the sort > of thing I needed to read. Thanks for the page reference as well; I will > show it to my contact and maybe she can pass it along to the developer. I > understand the concept of web 2.0 and HTML 5; it was just good to get all > this stuff clarified a bit, especially in the case of "aria". So thanks > again. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Roger Newell > Sent: January 8, 2018 4:38 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What, exactly, is a "region" (html navigation) > > OK, this is going to be a bit of a rant, but please read it all because you > will hopefully find it interesting and important. > > About ten years ago, a new concept was invented. It was called Web 2.0. It > isn't a new "version" of the web, but rather a new approach to what the web > is and what it can do. In the 1990s and early 2000s, the web was simply a > portal for reading and editing basic information, but around 2008 or so, > this began tochange with the advent of Facebook, Twitter and more > comprehensive websites. People started using the web for everything from > banking to advanced document creation to even viewing and manipulating the > files on other devices. > > To keep up with this, The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) created Accessible > Rich Internet Applications (ARIA). Many web developers saw the need to use > nonstandard controls on their websites. For example, rather than having a > button that advanced a user to a completely different page to see > information, they wanted to have controls that expanded and collapsed > different parts of a page. To let screen reader users know exactly what they > were seeing, ARIA can be used to tell the screen reader and the blind user > something like, "Hey. This is a nonstandard control. Just think of it as a > button and you'll be okay. > And by the way, right now, it's open, so there's more information to see on > this page." Web developers can use ARIA to give sections of their pages > custom region names. As an example, go to the Training Downloads Page of the > Freedom Scientific website. > > A few years after ARIA came along, HTML5 (the latest version of the markup > language used to code websites) was released. This gave web developers a lot > of new semantic tools to play with because it was hoped that they would use > to identify different parts of their pages so that one day, when AI would be > advanced enough to read and comprehend webpages themselves, they would be > able to more easily analyse websites using these semantic tags. Have you > ever heard JAWS say something like "article" or "content information"? There > are also tags for naming regions. These are some of the new tags in HTML5, > but be aware that sometimes JAWS does not speak the correct name for the > tag, which is one reason why JAWS is only somewhat standards-compliant. In > JAWS 2018, you have the ability to customize what tags JAWS speaks aloud. To > see this, go to Settings Center > Web/HTML/PDF > Reading > Customize Web > Verbosity Levels or something like that. > > So how do ARIA and HTML5 go together to announce regions? The answer is that > they often overlap. This page > (https://dequeuniversity.com/assets/html/jquery-summit/html5/slides/landmark > s.html) > explains this in greater detail and may be of more use to the people doing > the web design. It is somewhat strange that we can access this page as it is > part of a paid course, but it came up in Google search results. > > So, to summarize, if at all possible, the web developers should embrace both > HTML5 and ARIA to make the most accessible website possible. > > Sorry for the long explanation. > > On 1/9/18, JM Casey <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi everyone. >> >> >> >> I was recently talking to some people designing a website, and >> attempting to describe the experience using a screen-reader. I >> explained about quick navigation, the virtual cursor/buffer, and the >> various types of elements to which a screen-reader can quickly >> position its reading cursor. Although I have yet to talk to the actual >> developer, and I think he might have a greater understanding of this, >> I was unable to adequately describe a "region", and how navigating by >> regions, or quickly jumping to the "main region", has become essential >> on, for example, my bank website, which is full of junk. Essentially, >> nobody seemed very familiar with this idea of "regions". >> >> >> >> I found this page: >> https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-practices/examples/landmarks/region.htm >> l >> >> Which provides a decent explanation. I'm still only vaguely sure what >> aria is, though. >> >> Does anyone familiar with web-coding on the list feel like chiming in, >> I wonder? >> >> >> >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > --- > El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electrónico en busca > de virus. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
