Fernando,

Using your driver update example, I tried a couple of ideas on my system, 
including seeing if the mouseover command would work. It didn't. However, the 
words you indicate are missing from the control appear when I switch to the 
JAWS cursor. 

I'm using a 64-bit Windows 7 machine and right now the last release of JAWS 18. 
I haven't tested this with 2018.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 6:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions

Hi Mike,

I have access keys speaking set to All and Tutor Messages to Custom Messages 
Only. However, I tried the Menus and Controls options but the issue is not 
fixed.
It is expected that this setting doesn't fix this issue. This is because tutor 
messages handles speaking of hints given by JAWS on how to operate the focused 
control type with the keyboard; for example, when you are on a button and have 
Tutor Messages to Menus and Controls, JAWS will say using the Tutor Message 
voice: “To activate press space bar.”
These are JAWS-specific messages. Control descriptions are small help texts, 
often just under the control name, which gives information on what a specific 
control does and it's displayed on the screen. For example, when you are in the 
Driver Update wizard for a device in Device Manager, the Search Driver Software 
on your Computer button have a description telling “Search and install the 
driver software manually,” and the button for check automatically tells 
something longer about the searching on the computer and Windows Update unless 
you disabled this in the device installation settings.

Thanks a lot!

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 5:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions

Hi Fernando,

In Jaws quick settings, Options / Basics try these 2 settings if you haven't 
already.  I know I asked this earlier, but I don't know which settings you 
tried.  Using the settings below produced extra Jaws verbiage, but I just don't 
recall exactly what the control description is supposed to say.

Tutor Messages Announce Menu and Control Help radio button checked
2 of 3

Access Key Speak all radio button checked
2 of 4

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions


Hi Mike,

Thank you for replying.
Yes, I checked both Quick Settings and the Settings Center for the active 
verbosity level. In the active level, which is Beginner, I have checked the 
Control Descriptions item, and changing between long or short messages produce 
the same result on this problem.
Regarding Speech and Sounds Manager, I only changed the Classic scheme to make 
different heading levels to play piano sounds. Even so, I tried reverting to 
the original Classic scheme but, as I supposed, the problem is not fixed.
I also tried running JAWS in English to see if perhaps this is a specific issue 
in the Spanish version (it wouldn't be the first time I must edit a translated 
message missing a %1 or documentation which states things in an order different 
to the actual one, for example), but this issue is also present in English.
I think this should be somewhat related to the FocusChangedEvent, but my 
knowledge of event functions and scripting language in general is poor. As a 
workaround I tried to add the SayControlDescription function in the 
FocusChangedEvent, but it didn't worked at all.

Do you have some other ideas I can try?

Thanks in advance!

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 1:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions

Hi Fernando,

Without knowing what level of verboscity you run, have you looked to see what 
your settings in the Jaws quick settings / Options / Basics are set at?
You're an advanced / very knowlebgeable Jaws computer operator, so I would 
imagine you have, but just throwing the suggestion out there.  Also has a 
setting in Speech & Sound Schemes possibly changed?
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 7:29 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions


Hi all,



Since many versions ago, JAWS is not reading the control descriptions even when 
I have this item checked in the current verbosity level settings. If I want to 
get this data, I manually have to locate the Touch Cursor with Advanced Object 
Navigation on the desired control, press ALT+ENTER and find the value of the 
HelpText property, which obviously is slow and often useless.

Does someone know how I could fix this to match the behavior of some old 
versions like JAWS 9, in which this verbosity setting was always honored? I am 
using Windows 10 Fall Creators Update and JAWS 2018. It would be useful to 
quickly know the information about commands in Office programs like Excel that 
are complex and I don't use on a daily basis.



Thanks in advance,

Fernando Gregoire



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