Hi Brian,

Thank you very much for the extremely well detailed explanation of the 
system tray and the time and effort you took to put it together.  I do have 
the program off the jaws users programs page called Start Up Manager so I 
don't have to go into msconfig.  My question is where can I go to enter in a 
line, an example is below

INDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe [REG] User - Run

to find out what this is and if it needs to run on start up?  I have many 
things running upon start up and just don't know which ones to disable. 
Again, thank you very much for your help.  I am sure that many people will 
learn a great deal from your explanation. Take care.

Mike


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How do I get a program back into the system tray?


Hello Mike,

The system tray is an area of the Windows desktop just to the left of the
clock.  It is also known as the "notification area."  The icons in the
system tray represent processes that start running when Windows starts.  The
Windows clock is in the very bottom right corner of the desktop.  The system
tray is just to the left of the clock.  The part of the task bar where
minimized applications are shown is just to the left of the system tray.
The start button is in the bottom left corner of the desktop.  You are
moving from right to left along the bottom of the desktop when moving from
clock to system tray and then to the area of the task bar where minimized
applications reside.  It is easy to remember the hotkey combinations that
apply to these three areas of the desktop if you think of moving from right
to left.  The insert key is the JAWS key and the three keys for accessing
those three areas of the desktop move from right to left as well.  In other
words, the insert key with function key 12 speaks to time, the insert key
with function key 11 lists all the items in the system tray, and the insert
key with function key 10 lists all of the minimized applications.

There are a few different ways to control whether or not a process runs when
Windows starts.  One way is to use the Windows configuration utility.  Press
the Windows key with the letter "R" to bring up the run dialog box and then
type in msconfig (m s c o n f I g) without any spaces and press the enter
key.  When the configuration utility has loaded press the shift-tab key
combination to move to the page tabs.  If you are using Windows XP then
press the end key to move to the startup tab.  If you're using Windows Vista
then after using the end key use the left arrow key one time to move to the
startup page.  Press the tab key one time to move into a list of processes
that can be started with Windows.  Use the up and down arrow keys to move
from process to process and use the spacebar to check or uncheck the items.
If an item is checked it will start when Windows loads.  If an item is not
checked then it should not start when Windows is loaded.  After making sure
that only the processes you want to start when Windows starts are checked
then use the tab key to move to the apply button and press the spacebar.
Use the tab key to move to the close button and press the spacebar.  You
will then be presented with a dialog box asking if you want to restart
Windows or wait until later.  Some processes should not be unchecked as it
is necessary for them to start with Windows, such as the antivirus
auto-protect process and processes required by some components or hardware.
Such items as Quick Time or Real Audio generally do not have to be checked.

A person can also delete entries from the run sections of the local machine
and the current user hives of the Windows registry.  However, it is good to
remember that making wrong choices in the Windows registry can adversely
affect the way the computer operates.  It is a good practice to back up the
Windows registry before making any changes.  It is also important to
remember that when you make a change in the Windows registry you do not get
a chance to choose whether or not you want to save the change.  After making
the changes in the registry and closing it, the changes are effective the
next time you start Windows.  It is really advisable for you to use either
the configuration utility or the options within programs to have processes
start with Windows.  If you choose to use the Windows registry then you can
get into it by using the run dialog box in the start menu.  Use Windows key
with R to bring up the run dialog box.  Type in regedit (r e g e d I t)
without the spaces and press the enter key.  The registry is set up in a
tree and list views layout.  You move to the area of the registry by opening
levels until you get to the item you want to work with, at which time you
can press the tab key to move into a list of values.  The top level in the
structure is "My computer", which can be opened with the right arrow key.
Use the down arrow key to move to the HKEY_current user choice and use the
right arrow key to open that level.  Press the letter "S" to move to the
"software" choice and use the right arrow to open it.  Press the letter "M"
to move to the "Microsoft" choice and use the right arrow key to open it.
Press the letter "W" to move to the "Windows" choice and use the right arrow
key to open it.  Press the letter "C" to move to the "current version"
choice and then use right arrow to open it.  Press the letter "R" until you
hear the word "run" and then use the tab key to move into a list of
processes that start with Windows.  You can delete the values by using the
delete key and confirming that you want to delete the item.  Again, do not
delete anything that you are not sure about needing.  It is a much better
practice to check or uncheck items in the configuration utility.  After
working with the values you can press the Shift-tab key combination to move
back to the "run" choice.  Use the down arrow key to find if there are any
more choices that start with the word "run" such as "run once", "run once x"
etc.  Use the tab key to move into the list of values for any of the "run"
choices.  You can then follow the same path under the HKEY_Local Machine
hive of the registry.  It is found under "my computer" on the same level as
the "HKEY_Current User" choice.  In this hive you again moved to the
software choice and open it, move to the "Microsoft" choice and open it,
move to the "windows" choice and open it, move to the "current version"
choice and open it, and then look for any entries that start with the word
"run" on that level.  Again, use the tab key to move into the list of
values.  When you are finished working in the run areas of the registry you
can close the registry with the Alt-F4 keystroke.

Quite often a specific program will have a choice in options or preferences
for having the program start with Windows.

The icons located on the desktop generally are not the actual executable
files that start programs.  They are just shortcuts that point to program
executables in their properties.  Generally speaking, icons on the desktop
start specific applications, whereas icons in the system tray represent
running processes that start with the Windows operating system.

Again, I suggest that you stay away from working in the registry if you are
fairly new to using Windows.  It is much easier to check or uncheck an item
in the configuration utility.  Making a choice in a specific program to have
the program or process load with Windows by choosing a preference or option
from within the given program is probably safer still.  If you're not sure
whether or not a process needs to run when Windows starts, there are
websites where you can check the necessity of these items to start with
Windows.

Please let me know if I can further clarify any of the above points.

Take care.

Brian Lee
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike & Barbara" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How do I get a program back into the system tray?


> Hi Flor,
>
> This computer belongs to a friend and the question was asked to me by this
> friend so I am not sure of all the particulars of what program and exactly
> what happened at the time.  Since that last post my friend has learned
> that
> he has got serious computer problems and needs a technician to look at it.
> This has gotten my curiosity going and I want to learn more about the
> system
> tray and how it works and its functions.  Thanks for the reply.
>
> Mike
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Flor Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 6:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How do I get a program back into the system
> tray?
>
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> What program?  You must have taken some action with that program to ask it
> not to show itself in your System Tray.  You will probably find an option
> somewhere in its preferences  to put itself back there.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike & Barbara" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "jaws-users-list" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 3:59 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] How do I get a program back into the system tray?
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have lost a program out of the system tray and it does not come back
> after
> re-booting the computer.  How do I get this program back into the system
> tray or if I want to move a program from, let's say, the desk top to the
> system tray how would this be accomplished?
> All advice will be greatly appreciated and will also take me deeper into
> the
> bowels of depression brought on by frustration due to trying to learn how
> to
> operate this life altering/educational/informitive device called a
> computer.
> Hot damn!  How is that for self analysis Doctor Phil?  Thank you all very
> much for all of your help.
>
> Mike
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